Report: Over 24.4 Million AR-15s, AK-47s in Civilian Hands

[KG1]

You better have a warrant or get the hell off my property.

 

[2tonic]

That's probably built rifles. It's probably 2x that when you add in those built at home.

You're probably right, but it is possible those numbers include stripped lowers, and assumes they've all been built into complete rifles.

 

[Mgderf]

You're probably right, but it is possible those numbers include stripped lowers, and assumes they've all been built into complete rifles.

It's the 80%ers they are concerned about...

 

[BigRed]

This is getting crazy.

Scum of the scum....take an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the States and then spend a career doing all you can to shred it. Go to Hell.

 

[DadSmith]

Scum of the scum....take an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the States and then spend a career doing all you can to shred it. Go to Hell.

Notice they talked to him trying to get him to give up his 4th amendment right. They knew they couldn't go in and I'm glad the man never gave them an opportunity.

I have a question on this issue. Can you simply tell them to speak with your lawyer and ask them to leave? Or can you simply tell them to leave and shut the door without them breaking it down?
I also see the value of having cameras with sound capabilities to record such encounters just in case they try to say something happened or was said that wasn't.

 

[KG1]

Notice they talked to him trying to get him to give up his 4th amendment right. They knew they couldn't go in and I'm glad the man never gave them an opportunity.

I have a question on this issue. Can you simply tell them to speak with your lawyer and ask them to leave? Or can you simply tell them to leave and shut the door without them breaking it down?
I also see the value of having cameras with sound capabilities to record such encounters just in case they try to say something happened or was said that wasn't.

Your first sentence is correct IMO. I believe they knew that they couldn't just barge right in because it would've violated his 4th amendment rights that's why they tried to coax him into bringing the firearms to them.

I would most likely say to them if you are trying to get me to waive my 4th amendment rights, I will not waive them voluntarily. Now unless you have a warrant, I will insist that you leave my property immediately. Any further action without a warrant will be viewed to be in violation of my 4th amendment rights and subject to legal action by my attorney.

Now IANAL so I am only speaking in terms of what i might or might not do when faced with such a situation. This is not meant to be legal advice to anyone else. Once again IANAL

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Scum of the scum....take an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the States and then spend a career doing all you can to shred it. Go to Hell.

Always remember to never forget, there will always be enough that will value their compensation package over the Constitution that they will follow practically any order they are given.

 

[Expat]

Keep in mind these people aren't against burning down your house with you in it.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I have been buying a gun a month since January 2021. August 2022 I will buy two AR-15s.

25 million AR-15s. How many lowers are there? 10 million? 15?

 

[DadSmith]

I have been buying a gun a month since January 2021. August 2022 I will buy two AR-15s.

25 million AR-15s. How many lowers are there? 10 million? 15?

That would be interesting to watch the encounter of ATF agents showing up at your door to inspect your rifles.

What would you tell them Kirk?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

That would be interesting to watch the encounter of ATF agents showing up at your door to inspect your rifles.

What would you tell them Kirk?

What? Why is ATF showing up at my door? Why do you think I would say anything?

 

[KG1]

Keep in mind these people aren't against burning down your house with you in it.

This is why I am not going back into my house to go get a gun that they requested to see and come back with it in my hands. There is no way in hell I will have a gun in my hands at any time during an interaction with the ATF or any other LE agency.

 

[DadSmith]

What? Why is ATF showing up at my door? Why do you think I would say anything?

According to the agent in the video anyone who buys two or more firearms at a time they are checking them out.

Just wondering what you would say if they showed up to your door asking to see them like they did in the above video.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

According to the agent in the video anyone who buys two or more firearms at a time they are checking them out.

Just wondering what you would say if they showed up to your door asking to see them like they did in the above video.

A 3310? Sometimes they do that. I don't talk to them.

Never had them come to the door. I got a call ONCE, they won't call back.

 

[DadSmith]

This is why I am not going back into my house to go get a gun that they requested to see and come back with it in my hands. There is no way in hell I will have a gun in my hands at any time during an interaction with the ATF or any other LE agency.

I was thinking the same thing when I watched that. You don't know what is going to happen.

 

[DadSmith]

A 3310? Sometimes they do that. I don't talk to them.

Never had them come to the door. I got a call ONCE, they won't call back.

I've had a few FFLs tell me to buy from several different places if you want to get several firearms at once. Otherwise they have to report it. I guess that applies to buying lower receivers as well. I tend to buy multiple lowers when they are on sale. I've never been called or had a visit from the ATF.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I have been buying a gun a month since January 2021. August 2022 I will buy two AR-15s.

25 million AR-15s. How many lowers are there? 10 million? 15?

When my wife asked how many more guns I needed, I told her: it's not so much that I need another one but there's all the others I don't have yet.

 

[Cameramonkey]

They have also been visiting SCCY owners. They have been flagged as they are so cheap perps can get more bang for the buck.

One guy bought more than 2. Each in a different color because he liked them. He got the same treatment.

 

[Pepi]

Oh no Oh no Oh nonono. I ain't showing them forking **** and I'm on a list. 6 years ago I bought two S&W air weights on the same day. I only have one now. The other one was a Christmas present.

 

[KG1]

I think what the ATF agent and other LE officers on the scene were doing is referred to as a "knock and talk" They are allowed to have a conversation with me and ask me for my cooperation, but I am under no obligation to participate, and it would be in my best interest to terminate the conversation and ask them to leave.

If they had a warrant, they would have told me so and they would've proceeded to execute that warrant.

Once again IANAL. This is not legal advice. I am only referring to what I myself might or might not do under the circumstances.