Revolvers: Boring, Antiquated, and Stupid

[The Drifter]

He forgot [1] , I hate revolvers because it,s so darn easy to collect your brass for reloading . How dare they make a gun where I don,t have to get on the ground and pick up brass ,where brass is not flying everywhere including down my wife's bra , hearing screams of pain. It,s down right upsetting .

 

[Snapdragon]

He forgot [1] , I hate revolvers because it,s so darn easy to collect your brass for reloading . How dare they make a gun where I don,t have to get on the ground and pick up brass ,where brass is not flying everywhere including down my wife's bra , hearing screams of pain. It,s down right upsetting .

 

[in625shooter]

I noticed his support hand thumb was black. That's Caleb Giddings of Gun Nuts Media and original contestant on Top Shot. He's also an inactive INGO member and USPSA competitor.

There are 2 basic handgun grips for autos. The high thumb/thumb over thumb and the old revolver grip (where the strong thumb is locked down on the middle finger and the support thumb is locked down on the strong thumb). On revolvers you can only really use the revolver grip (the cup and saucer hold lost favor 40 years ago and the thumb over the back of the hand is in the senior citizen home.

Nothing against Mr Giddings but most of the hosts of any number of gun shows on TV (don't get me started on the 99% incompetence rate of youtube gun non know anything gurus) Is most would do viewers a favor if they researched how to actually use/shoot certain firearms. Anyone that tries the high thumb with a wheel gun will not be as an effective shooter with it. It just doesn't work well and if their hand is large on a medium revolver or anyone uses it with a snubby you will at the least have black thumbs, at the most have a trip to the ER.

As a revolver guy nothing gets my goat as someone doing a review on a DA revolver and all they do is cock it single action THATS NOT HOW THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO BE USED so stick to your polymer kid

OK rant over back on topic Revolvers are AWESOME!

 

[U.S. Patriot]

I wonder if he is perscribed meds.

 

[indiucky]

As a revolver guy nothing gets my goat as someone doing a review on a DA revolver and all they do is cock it single action THATS NOT HOW THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO BE USED so stick to your polymer kid

OK rant over back on topic Revolvers are AWESOME!

Starting six months ago I made a vow to only shoot my revolvers double action...I try to put about 300 rounds per week through them (counting my Smith K 22) and after about two weeks my hit ratio was the same as single action...And I mean double action!!!! Not pulling the trigger on those Smith's until they index in single action and then firing but a smooth, straight double action pull....My buddy and I were having an informal whizzing contest with our K 22's double action only and he was indexing and when I called him out on it he said, "Technically I am shooting double action as I am not cocking the hammer..."

He's a lawyer and I guess by legal standards that is double action but you and I know it is not....

 

[bigcraig]

Well, while I am not a revolver guy, I do have one that I like to shoot occassionally.

This, to me, is the perfect .357mag.

My SS 4" Ruger GP100 milled for use with moon clips.

 

[Mikey1911]

Well that would explain your love of Marvin the Martian...

Being disintegrated makes me very angry (puff, puff) VERY angry, indeed!

i bought a GP100 as my first revolver a few weeks ago. It ​is a blast!

 

[451_Detonics]

And of course not all of us have them new fangled doubling action shootin' irons...

My 1871 open top centerfire conversion...

 

[Hopper]

All this time I've been eating chicken, and just had my first steak... YUMM!

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[bwframe]

I noticed his support hand thumb was black. That's Caleb Giddings of Gun Nuts Media and original contestant on Top Shot. He's also an inactive INGO member and USPSA competitor.

I was going to say the same thing. Cool video though.

Then he should know better...I've been shooting revolvers most of my life, and I would never grip one that way.

There are 2 basic handgun grips for autos. The high thumb/thumb over thumb and the old revolver grip (where the strong thumb is locked down on the middle finger and the support thumb is locked down on the strong thumb). On revolvers you can only really use the revolver grip (the cup and saucer hold lost favor 40 years ago and the thumb over the back of the hand is in the senior citizen home.

Nothing against Mr Giddings but most of the hosts of any number of gun shows on TV (don't get me started on the 99% incompetence rate of youtube gun non know anything gurus) Is most would do viewers a favor if they researched how to actually use/shoot certain firearms. Anyone that tries the high thumb with a wheel gun will not be as an effective shooter with it. It just doesn't work well and if their hand is large on a medium revolver or anyone uses it with a snubby you will at the least have black thumbs, at the most have a trip to the ER.

As a revolver guy nothing gets my goat as someone doing a review on a DA revolver and all they do is cock it single action THATS NOT HOW THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO BE USED so stick to your polymer kid

OK rant over back on topic Revolvers are AWESOME!

Caleb made a video reply:

[video=youtube_share;IVaNlkOZd2M]http://youtu.be/IVaNlkOZd2M[/video]

 

[in625shooter]

Caleb made a video reply:

[video=youtube_share;IVaNlkOZd2M]http://youtu.be/IVaNlkOZd2M[/video]

I will stand by my 28 years of doing (and getting paid to do it) and what I have seen in person. I have seen a couple get hurt with blast from a 357 snubby as well as from some barricade shooting with full power loads dislodging debris. While some folks can shoot thumbs forward with a revolver it can be problematic if you make a mistake. What was not mentioned and what I have also seen is the shooters thumb bumps the cylinder thus interfering with the rotation IE trigger pull. Not all the time but just something to take into account. Like all things practice however a lot to get thrown at then if they are new to shooting. As far as stupid well go to any range Private, Military or LE and you will see stupid about everyday as well as a way and a better way.

 

[451_Detonics]

Looks to me he is having to re-establish thumb/hand position with every shot, I think I just keep going the old fashioned way and maintain a good lock with my thumbs low.

I don't shoot with a high thumb on autos either unless I want to induce an alibi for bullseye competition.

 

[Drail]

I shoot high thumbs forward with semi autos but with any rotary gun I tuck all them appendages in TIGHT. I have seen people who were unfamiliar with rotary guns do bad things to themselves. Come to think of it I have seen people do it with Glocks too. They just don't think about what is about to happen.

 

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More Gun Nuts Media commentary on the subject. Caleb takes on his detractors:
Knowledge and skill aren?t necessarily connected | Gun Nuts Media

 

[in625shooter]

More Gun Nuts Media commentary on the subject. Caleb takes on his detractors:
Knowledge and skill aren?t necessarily connected | Gun Nuts Media

Apparently there is quite the fan base of Mr Giddings

A Critical Look At Caleb Giddings: Insurance Agent, & Self Proclaimed Gun Nut | SOFREP

 

[bwframe]

Apparently there is quite the fan base of Mr Giddings

A Critical Look At Caleb Giddings: Insurance Agent, & Self Proclaimed Gun Nut | SOFREP

I'm not really taking sides on this, just putting up relevant info for discussion.
(I'd take your advice on revolver gripping. Caleb's not even classified in USPSA for revolver.)

In reference to your find though, it appears Gun Nuts was outing a possible FUDD who was running for NRA board of directors?
Anti-gun ex-SEAL Brandon Webb to run for NRA board of directors | Gun Nuts Media

 

[happs]

[h=2]Thats me Boring, Antiquated, and Stupid but love those guns[/h]

 

[in625shooter]

I'm not really taking sides on this, just putting up relevant info for discussion.
(I'd take your advice on revolver gripping. Caleb's not even classified in USPSA for revolver.)

In reference to your find though, it appears Gun Nuts was outing a possible FUDD who was running for NRA board of directors?
Anti-gun ex-SEAL Brandon Webb to run for NRA board of directors | Gun Nuts Media

I hear you, there are always 3 sides to a story. But the ones that know the most are the ones that hardly ever talk, the quiet professionals if you will.

There are several ways to do most things and gripping a handgun is one. Most actual instructors (or folks that have business giving advice) will tell you its A WAY and have a plan B or C for "Those Shooters". Just some ways work better than others. Everyone is free to do what they want but if you get some things pointed out don't fret about it, no one walks on water. One that is good at USPSA might not do good in the steel challenge and IDPA is totally different in a way as well.