Saw something new today

[U.S. Patriot]

When I was at the range a guy showed up, with an AR style rifle that fired 410 shot shells. He said they just started importing them.

 

[IndyGunworks]

Pics or LINK? never heard of it... that would be pretty interesting though... i wonder though if he meant AK like and was refering to the siaga?

 

[U.S. Patriot]

Well I did not have my camera, and I can not remember the brand for the sake of my own life.

 

[Griffeycom]

AT-14: The .410 AR-15 Shotgun | The Firearm Blog

 

[IndyGunworks]

did it look like this

 

[hotfarmboy1]

I think I know what you're talking about. I think it was H&R made a break open single shot dressed up to look lilke an AR. Has the handguard setup, the pistol grip, high sight in the front and rear sight with peep, along with the extendable M4 style stock. I saw it at Dunhams and I think it was only around $130 or so.

 

[D.T.O.M.]

I have seen a few styled like an AK but not one like an AR sounds interesting!

 

[Crystalship1]

Nevermind.... Apparently I can't READ!!!

 

[IndyGunworks]

here are some pics

 

[IndyGunworks]

YouTube - Safir T14 (shotgun) Atis Testi

 

[IndyGunworks]

 

[joslar15]

My first thought was why? After watching the vid, it quickly became why not? But since there isn't any difference in cost, my next AR will be a dedicated .22, probably a with a Spike's upper.

 

[U.S. Patriot]

YouTube - Safir T14 (shotgun) Atis Testi

That's the one. I noticed he had loading problems though. He said he reloaded his own shot. I did not ask him how much he paid for it. Would make a bad ass little gun, filled with slugs.

 

[Stainer]

I wonder what it would be like shooting shot through it instead of slugs...... I guess it's just one of those things where you could say that you have one

 

[gdun67]

I want one. REALLY bad.

 

[chipdog4]

Whittaker Guns had one a while back and I want to say it was around $800.

 

[fireball168]

They looked decent at SHOT, I was more interested in the magazines for it than anything else though......

Some folks claim the magwell dimensions on their lower are different. While at their booth I was able to scurry away across the isle with a mag and fit it into a standard lower without issue - but that's not what is being reported as of late.

 

[cce1302]

I have seen them for sale on gunbroker for around 8-900.

 

[RTDoug]

I've handled one...

...at Whitetail Gunshop in Shirley.

Tony had one, and the only thing that I thought would be tough was obtaining a sight picture for wingshooting.

Guess that's not what it is meant for.

Regards

 

[dawoodq]

When I was at the range a guy showed up, with an AR style rifle that fired 410 shot shells. He said they just started importing them.

The gun you saw at the range was probably a T-14 manufactured by Safir Arms.
We represent this company in USA and Canada. We can facilitate its import to FFL holders.
The gun is very famous in Europe. You can read some reviews at :

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/26/at-14-the-410-ar-15-shotgun/#comment-5669
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/

The manufacturer manufactures receivers that customers could place on their normal Colt , Smith Wesson or Bushmaster AR 15 lower receivers to convert them into shotguns.

Here is a short description of the Gun
The T-14 shotgun is developed by Turkish company Safir Arms. It is broadly based on the famous Ar-15 / M16 rifle, but has several patented features necessary for reliable functioning with shotgun-type ammunition. At the present time it is offered in only one caliber, .410x65 (also known as 36 gauge, 2 /12 inch chamber). With .410 caliber bullet weighting 7.5 gram (116 grains) manufacturer claims muzzle velocity in 700 m/s (2,290 fps) range, providing muzzle energy of about 1,800 Joules (1,320 ft-lbs). The T-14 shotgun is semi-automatic only and is available in different barrel lengths to make it legal for civilian use in various countries that permit its citizens to own shotguns.
The T-14 shotgun is gas operated weapon with rotary bolt locking. The gas system utilizes annual (ring-type) short-stroke gas piston, located around the barrel. For maintenance and cleaning gas piston can be removed from the barrel after removing the front sight with its base. The bolt group externally resembles the Ar-15 bolt, but has redesigned bolt head with three radial lugs and ejector, optimized for rimmed shotgun shells. The receiver is similar in design to Ar-15 rifles, and made from aircraft-grade aluminum alloy and consists of two parts (upper an lower), connected by two cross-pins. Trigger unit and manual safety also resemble same units of the Ar-15 rifle. T-14 shotguns are produced either with integral, M16A2-type carrying handle and rear sight block, or with M16A3-type flat-top receiver with Picatinny rail. Furniture is made of plastic, and buttstocks are available either in fixed or in telescoped (M4-type) variety. Detachable box magazines are specially designed for rimmed shotgun ammunition.

I will be happy to provide more information.

Regards

Dawood