I had to carry around the M-60 back in the late 80's. While I liked to shoot it. I did not enjoy carrying it. I have never fired the 240.
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The US military needs something more accurate, lethal and reliable than the M4
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I had to carry around the M-60 back in the late 80's. While I liked to shoot it. I did not enjoy carrying it. I have never fired the 240.
Mosinowner
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The rifle should chamber in 7.62x51. It should be accurate out to atleast 500 meters. Also it should be full auto. I'm not saying the M14 but maybe something made out of composite?
Mosinowner
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With light composite stocks and only metal when required. It would weigh considerbly less than the m14.But your the expertAnd you can carry that on Patrol for a Week and let me no how that works for ya...
Not an expert just a Lazy Soldier....
Im gonna put my 
in my actual marine corps combat experience overseas. iv done and saw things i never want to see again over in iraq. but the biggest problem miltary m4's are machined cheaply they like alot of lube, in overseas you cant lube them, running them dry is rough on them i was issued a brand new m4 when i hit the fleet, when we would put even the lightest amounts of clp on the weapon they would attract tons of sand/dust/ect and often jam in fire fights so we ran them dry to the point where they would also jam, ( in my personal case this resulted in a failure to the bolt to lock and it blowup in my face) it blew the mag out of the rifle crack both the lower and upper receivers and ripping the buffer tube/butt stock completely off the rifle. and in the process i was shot 3 times resulting in my first purple heart....
my options on the m4 we really need a less problematic carbine.... i wont touch the stop power debate but ive seen people take 3 or 4 rounds first hand and are still firing at us... we do have need for short barrel carbine in select fire so the m14 is out but we are using them out there just so everyone knows....
there a reason alot of military guys pefer the ak over a ar platform my personal experiences are why im a ak guy now i havent always been... the problem is we stress to much for accuraticy but at the same time we are sacrificing reliability.... and alot of this could be solve by just going back to the old piston system
in my actual marine corps combat experience overseas. iv done and saw things i never want to see again over in iraq. but the biggest problem miltary m4's are machined cheaply they like alot of lube, in overseas you cant lube them, running them dry is rough on them i was issued a brand new m4 when i hit the fleet, when we would put even the lightest amounts of clp on the weapon they would attract tons of sand/dust/ect and often jam in fire fights so we ran them dry to the point where they would also jam, ( in my personal case this resulted in a failure to the bolt to lock and it blowup in my face) it blew the mag out of the rifle crack both the lower and upper receivers and ripping the buffer tube/butt stock completely off the rifle. and in the process i was shot 3 times resulting in my first purple heart....my options on the m4 we really need a less problematic carbine.... i wont touch the stop power debate but ive seen people take 3 or 4 rounds first hand and are still firing at us... we do have need for short barrel carbine in select fire so the m14 is out but we are using them out there just so everyone knows....
there a reason alot of military guys pefer the ak over a ar platform my personal experiences are why im a ak guy now i havent always been... the problem is we stress to much for accuraticy but at the same time we are sacrificing reliability.... and alot of this could be solve by just going back to the old piston system
Part of me says the M4 is fine but with all the new advances in metals, lube, etc... I would be interested in a new rifle or maybe the same M4 just made better with "self lubricating" metals and tollerances that would allow hard use with little cleaning but still hold tight groups at longer distances...
i will agree but with what colt is building us out there i will never own one of there firearms
composites generally cost more in the way of R&D...so not often something experimented with
actually there are oil impregnated metals that are designed to not require lube, such as oilite bronze bushings.not saying that would work in a firearm but the technology does exist. The other option in keeping the m4 and improving accurate range and stopping power would be in projectile technology and development
maybe...but whether or not they give it the name "oilite"...bronze is commonly used in high metal to metal friction areas such as bushings because it is softer......it is meant to wear down the bushing rather than the shaft which is generally more expensive...so I wouldn't necessarily consider it "lube impregnated"...simply again the harder metal wearing down the softer metal.......graphite is another soft metal which is used in friction areas for various markets
I've got time logged in the sandbox, and even more time logged behind the M-4 platform. I have no beef with the platform, but would like to see a push towards an intermediate round such as the 6.5 Grendel or the 6.8 SPC. Granted, you would take a hit on the amount of rounds you could carry, but I think the payoff would justify that.
"MORE" bullet weight.............and NO mouse fart calibers should be allowed.
"Bomb them back into the stone age", USAF General Curtis LeMay 1968
You're the guy from the Burger King commercial aren't ya! And that's really a .22lr round in your tiny hand!
Was going to suggest something similar to the B-52 pictured, except in today's politically correct warfare, instead of a soldier with a shoulder mounted weapon, or the B-52 carpet bombing, we need a few thousand Remotely Piloted Vehicles each armed with precision munitions ranging from a five pound man killer to a 500 pound building leveler.
That way no Americans could get hurt as happens now with on foot battles, and if we lost an RPV we wouldn't hear about some church protesting the Great men and women of our armed forces.
No pilots in the aircraft means no worry about POWs if one gets shot down, and if one is downed, I can't see why with current technology we couldn't detonate the munitions after the crash when the enemy stands around taking pictures and jumping up and down with soon to be short lived glee.
That way no Americans could get hurt as happens now with on foot battles, and if we lost an RPV we wouldn't hear about some church protesting the Great men and women of our armed forces.
No pilots in the aircraft means no worry about POWs if one gets shot down, and if one is downed, I can't see why with current technology we couldn't detonate the munitions after the crash when the enemy stands around taking pictures and jumping up and down with soon to be short lived glee.
Mosinowner
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50 BMGS FOR EVERY SOILDER! LETS TERMINATE DEM
