Video: Proof that Concealed Carry Permit Holders Live in a Dream World

[HICKMAN]

I was one of those.

FoF really drives home the lesson that decision-making is SOO important to such scenarios. Not just gun-handling and marksmanship alone.

Force on force training may be about as close as you can get. But it's still just that, training.

For example, but how do you think you will react to a shooter if your wife takes a gunshot to the face?

Will you move to shield and protect her, stand there in shock because of what just happened and what you see in front of you, or will you be drawing your gun?

Someone asked me that once and I don't really know the answer to that.... I couldn't know, having never been in combat or a gunfight.

These are things we can't practice or know, until we face them.

 

[turnandshoot4]

So many people carry guns every day and don't understand what you just wrote and why it is important.

That is merely the tip of the iceburg for most who carry.

Few do FoF training.

Even fewer do any type of training/competition.

Even fewer even shoot WITH PURPOSE.

 

[esrice]

For example, but how do you think you will react to a shooter if your wife takes a gunshot to the face?

I actually do know, because I experienced almost that exact thing this past weekend.

What did I do? I prevailed.

JT you seriously need to come train up here with me. It will blow your mind. (it sure did mine)

 

[esrice]

Few do FoF training.

Even fewer do any type of training/competition.

Even fewer even shoot WITH PURPOSE.

Flip that list and I'll agree with you.

 

[Shay]

Force on force training may be about as close as you can get. But it's still just that, training.

I agree to an extent that training will always at some level be artificial, but I disagree that you can't reasonably predict how someone will react in a given situation. Realistic scenario-based FoF gives us that ability.

 

[Trav43]

Shay, if you take your course do you get to shoot each other with those paint bullets?? And on a serious note how do you combat the extremely alerted mindset in your class?? i.e. I am taking a class and expect to be suprised with an attack.

 

[Shay]

Shay, if you take your course do you get to shoot each other with those paint bullets?? And on a serious note how do you combat the extremely alerted mindset in your class?? i.e. I am taking a class and expect to be suprised with an attack.

Yes, if you take a Force on Force class from me, in the skills portion you will shoot someone and you will be shot. You may or may not shoot someone or be shot in a scenarios.

I specifically caution my students against walking around in Condition Orange (Cooper's color codes). Not everybody is a threat.

It helps to have multiple role players where not all (or not any) of them are "bad guys". There are "no shoot" scenarios mixed in. This resets the student's ability to prejudge a situation.

I also craft scenarios that punish behavior such as treating everyone as a threat or going to gun too early.

 

[Hemingway]

The instructors beat the students? Seems like proof to me that training works. The better trained people won

 

[turnandshoot4]

Flip that list and I'll agree with you.

It made sense in my head. I'd agree to flip the list for sure.

 

[esrice]

It made sense in my head. I'd agree to flip the list for sure.

In the other order I think its a great list.

Few practice shooting WITH PURPOSE.

Fewer do any type of training/competition.

Even fewer do FoF training.