Why IL resident can NOT bring handgun to IN range

[kludge]

Yes, it is. Read it carefully and then read the original quote.

I said an IL resident can get an IN LTCH if they work in Indiana.

That is all true.

What's your point?

 

[singlestacksig]

IF they work an hourly job & work 40 plus hours..
ISP denied a permit for my brother in law because his work in Indiana was for our family farm and did not pay an hourly wage..

 

[in625shooter]

The transporting unloaded was always moot for anyone other than an IN citizen.

I think what you run into with others shooting at ranges in IN is that those ranges are private property and the state of IN can't tell you you can't carry on private property.

I agree. Most folks seemed to get really spent up on the old law. As a former municipal LEO what I found is very few (not counting the metro areas like Indy, Gary etc) would make an arrest on that for an unloaded handgun not carried on their person. If I discovered someone transporting an unloaded handgun in a case not loaded there was no way I would try to arrest them. Personally that was way to low on the scale to really worry about and even if you wanted to unless they were a complete @#% the prosecutor here would throw it out. Or other prosecutors would allow them to defer it unless there was more to it than just a simple traffic stop etc.

 

[lon]

Just in case somebody finds this old thread through a Google search, as I did on July 3, I want to make sure there's something here to indicate that Indiana revised the law effective July 1, such that IL residents can now legally shoot at IN ranges. Check out this thread for info.

I've been to the Kingsbury range a couple of times (with my Utah CCW) and thoroughly enjoyed my time away from Crook County. Thanks for the hospitality.

Quite possibly the most effective use of the NecroPost that i've ever seen.

Well done and welcome to the board!

 

[diamonddav]

can i carry my handgun to Il . I have a In LTCH .My son lives in Danville , Ill like to visit but don't want to spend the weekend in their facillities.

 

[Plinkuh]

can i carry my handgun to Il . I have a In LTCH .My son lives in Danville , Ill like to visit but don't want to spend the weekend in their facillities.

Illinois does not honor Indiana's LTCH.

 

[ATM]

can i carry my handgun to Il . I have a In LTCH .My son lives in Danville , Ill like to visit but don't want to spend the weekend in their facillities.

Unloaded and encased according to IL law. No handguns in Chicago still.

 

[ryknoll3]

Illinois does not honor Indiana's LTCH.

Or ANYONE else's, either.

 

[flagtag]

Or ANYONE else's, either.

IL doesn't even honor (and/or obey) the Constitution!

 

[gunfreak6989]

july 1st law change no permit needed to transport a gun to and from the range in indiana or transport to your friends house just has to be unloaded and ammo somewhere else in the car i was happy about that one

 

[kludge]

IF they work an hourly job & work 40 plus hours..
ISP denied a permit for my brother in law because his work in Indiana was for our family farm and did not pay an hourly wage..

Ever thought of appealing? I sure would. The law says "regular" it doesn't say 40 hours a week, among other thing it does not say.

regular:

1. having equal times or spaces between: occurring in a fixed, unvarying, or predictable pattern, with equal amounts of time or space between each one
2. happening frequently: occurring or doing something frequently enough over a period of time to establish a pattern, though not necessarily a strict one
3. usual: normally expected, or most often used or done

Is he taxed on his earnings from the farm? If you brother works on the family farm "regularly" and obtains financial gain from doing so, I would not deny the LTCH.

 

[jgreiner]

IF they work an hourly job & work 40 plus hours..
ISP denied a permit for my brother in law because his work in Indiana was for our family farm and did not pay an hourly wage..

I would appeal that...especially it being farm work. As a kid, we ALWAYS carried out in the fields.....you never know when you will run across a coyote, or a rabid critter. (Had a rabid raccoon go through the combine once......it was a mess.....)

 

[singlestacksig]

Ever thought of appealing? I sure would. The law says "regular" it doesn't say 40 hours a week, among other thing it does not say.

regular:

1. having equal times or spaces between: occurring in a fixed, unvarying, or predictable pattern, with equal amounts of time or space between each one
2. happening frequently: occurring or doing something frequently enough over a period of time to establish a pattern, though not necessarily a strict one
3. usual: normally expected, or most often used or done

Is he taxed on his earnings from the farm? If you brother works on the family farm "regularly" and obtains financial gain from doing so, I would not deny the LTCH.

yes, we went through one appeal, then he got his FL permit.. but without payroll of x hours they denied it.. they did not consider material participation in an investment regular business..

 

[singlestacksig]

I would appeal that...especially it being farm work. As a kid, we ALWAYS carried out in the fields.....you never know when you will run across a coyote, or a rabid critter. (Had a rabid raccoon go through the combine once......it was a mess.....)

yeah, after the 2nd dog pack attack , we thought it would be good for him to have a handgun on hand.. you cant always have a long arm when you are doing other things..

for us it is a moot point, he got a FL permit & the law allows carry on private property w/ permission.. but I like to let people know ISP seems to ad extra requirements for out of state permits...

 

[ryknoll3]

july 1st law change no permit needed to transport a gun to and from the range in indiana or transport to your friends house just has to be unloaded and ammo somewhere else in the car i was happy about that one

Not true. Just has to be unloaded, encased and inaccessible. NOTHING in the statute says anything about ammo. This is one of those old gun-shop fables.

 

[SeedlessTom]

Not true. Just has to be unloaded, encased and inaccessible. NOTHING in the statute says anything about ammo. This is one of those old gun-shop fables.

Assumption: Magazines must be empty, as well?

 

[Scutter01]

Assumption: Magazines must be empty, as well?

No. The code says NOTHING about magazines or ammo except that the pistol must be unloaded.

 

[flagtag]

Assumption: Magazines must be empty, as well?

No. The magazine may be loaded, but,can not be in the gun, but it CAN be in the same "container" with the gun. (Need not be in a seperate compartment) The gun can not have a round in the chamber.

Just remove magazine, eject the round in chamber (if there) and you're good to go.
Container must be closed - completely surrounding gun/ammo. (Zipper/velcro, etc.)