I'll respond to one of the later points first:
If you click my name and then "view public profile", you'll wind up on my user page. Once there, you'll see my name again, with a link below it called "user lists". Click this, and in the resulting menu click "add to ignore list". I invite you to do so now, and disregard the rest of this post.
Me: I want to cut down this tree in my yard.
You: WHY?
Me: Because it's dead.
You: WHY?
Me: Because it has ceased to live.
You: WHY?
Me: Go take a biology class. Now, I want to cut this thing down and put the pieces in my wood pile. This will give me something to burn in my fireplace next winter and keep me warm.
You: WHY?
Me: Because staying warm in the winter is something that all mammals need to do, and the human mammal lacks fur to help in this endeavor.
You: WHY?
Me: Let's just cut to the chase and accept that eventually I'm going to have to tackle the problem of making a standing tree fall down, and realize that my bare hands are probably not going to accomplish much in that pursuit. I must now cast about and look for something that will help me accomplish my goal. Perhaps someone else knows a way to do it, and has managed to manufacture a suitable tool. If so, and if what they want in exchange is a price I'm willing and able to pay, then cool -- I can go about my business. If not, then I'll have to put my human ingenuity to work and see if I can come up with a tool on my own to do it. Otherwise, I'll have to content myself with being cold this winter, and hope I survive it.
Your behavior is just a creamy little bonus on top of that. Your attacks have been directed at me, not at my objections. This works on the playground, but not in an actual debate.
2. As much as you would like to think you know what your talking about, it is clear you dont, i wont respond to any reply on this topic from you as it is a waste of my time.
If you click my name and then "view public profile", you'll wind up on my user page. Once there, you'll see my name again, with a link below it called "user lists". Click this, and in the resulting menu click "add to ignore list". I invite you to do so now, and disregard the rest of this post.
I never made that assertion. Of course I am a consumer; everyone is, even the poorest chump in the middle of the DRC who doesn't have 2 sticks to rub together. But unless this provides the basis for a tautological "proof" of consumerist theory, the point is moot.(remember at the begining you were not a consumer because you had no debt...lol)
It's funny how I'm the one making arguments to support my position, and you're just chortling and talking about how smart you are.All you have done buddy is blow hot air about how your right and i'm wrong, you talk a good game but back it up with nothing but your OPINION, oh hey, let me guess, i'm just supposed to believe you right?
I never made that argument, and I am not likely to.Humans are social creatures and go with what the group goes with, are you really going to try and say we are free people and need no social interaction?
Go ahead and cry, it might make you feel better. Then when you dry your tears, go back and read what you quoted of my post. Here, allow me to fill it in with a less generic example, one from the real world, one which applies to me at this very moment:But others arrive at their desires in a different way: I want to do X.
I feel like i'm going to cry if i have to explain this one more time. WHY. Why do you want that item.
Me: I want to cut down this tree in my yard.
You: WHY?
Me: Because it's dead.
You: WHY?
Me: Because it has ceased to live.
You: WHY?
Me: Go take a biology class. Now, I want to cut this thing down and put the pieces in my wood pile. This will give me something to burn in my fireplace next winter and keep me warm.
You: WHY?
Me: Because staying warm in the winter is something that all mammals need to do, and the human mammal lacks fur to help in this endeavor.
You: WHY?
Me: Let's just cut to the chase and accept that eventually I'm going to have to tackle the problem of making a standing tree fall down, and realize that my bare hands are probably not going to accomplish much in that pursuit. I must now cast about and look for something that will help me accomplish my goal. Perhaps someone else knows a way to do it, and has managed to manufacture a suitable tool. If so, and if what they want in exchange is a price I'm willing and able to pay, then cool -- I can go about my business. If not, then I'll have to put my human ingenuity to work and see if I can come up with a tool on my own to do it. Otherwise, I'll have to content myself with being cold this winter, and hope I survive it.
As above, I have never made the assertion that I am not a consumer. My thesis is more of the "so what?" variety.Wholly cow i was mistaken, and man enough to admit it, you showed me the error of my ways, you sir are in fact NOT a consumer, bravo.
Your insulting behavior is separate from your conspiracy theory. In the main, I have been describing consumerism as a conspiracy theory because it has always struck me as such. I don't have a lot of respect for it or for half a dozen other half-baked ideas that various folks have come up with. You are not the first to present consumerism to me, and my attacks have been directed at consumerism, not at you.Constant insults? What kind of conspriacy theory is that?
Your behavior is just a creamy little bonus on top of that. Your attacks have been directed at me, not at my objections. This works on the playground, but not in an actual debate.
I'm looking... and don't see anywhere that I've claimed to have had 10 majors.Besides the fact that i dont play nice with people who have 10 majors
And you're forgetting that there is no way to accurately predict whether the values passed on will be positive or negative values.Man do you ever need a refresher on psychology bro, your values as well as your desires, are passed on to you from family,friends,lovers,co workers,etc.
Opportunity costs are also subjective, because all value is subjective.And the value of time is not subjective, while you may try to say it is, again there is ALWAYS opportunity costs based on what you do with your time, even if you dont believe it, it's a fact.
I'm happy to be able to entertain your wife.No way dude are you kidding me? And here my wife was so afraid that i would think she was bubba-esque for posting on this site, man what a relief to her, you really made her day now.
I'll be waiting for you to explain yourself better instead of filling the page with insults, and I'll be happy to respond when you do. Unfortunately, you won't be able to respond to me, since you've already taken a public vow not to, and I trust that you're a man of your word.TBH i dont even think your bubba, and after explaining myself better, maybe you can get a handle on the topic and post something that makes sense.