Why all the love for the mosin-nagant . I hate them!

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  • atvdave

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    Why is there so much love for these horrible guns. I myself got lured in years ago only to be disappointed. I hear all the tales of it being a 300 yard gun only to hear excuses on range day from the proud owners. I'm sure I will get flamed for this thread so my extinguisher is handy. I know that during the war they were used with some success, help me understand

    Give ya $20 for it? :D
     

    Denny347

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    I'm trying to catch up with Miller Tyme.

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    Cheap ammo = afford a ton of it.

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    Hoosier8

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    Hmm. For a rifle called M91 because it was adopted in 1891 and is the longest produced and used rifle in history it is hard to not like it. For a powerful cartridge rifle you can buy without an FFL if you get one old enough it is hard not to like it. For a rifle you can buy that has seen action during untold wars along with some from Vietnam it is hard not to like it.

    My holy grail is one with the finger rest.

    I do have one that was made by Remington on contract to the Russians but never left the country and never got stamped by the US Military.

    How can you not like the history?
     

    maxmayhem

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    I have quite a few firearms myself (about 17 since i started acquiring in 2009) but not that many...no my wife doesnt care but she wouldnt like me buying 80 mosins...no luck problem here
    If only some of them cost $100.00, I have 6 snipers ( yes legit snipers not the repro CIA models) each worth between $800.00 - $2500.00 so no its not about the $100.00 refurb. as for broadening my horizions I have close to 130 firearms in my collection so that isn't an issue.

    As for my wife, she loves it, she enjoys them as much as I do, she has about a dozen of her own firearms, but I guess from your comments you can't say the same.........

    sorry about your luck.

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    Miller Tyme

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    we have two ar-15 and another in process, 3 shotguns, 4 glocks, an xd, a sig, a beretta 85, a walther ppk-s, a ruger 22,s&w model 34-1, smith and wesson m and p 15-22 , several savage bolt guns..and ZERO mosins.and planning for more...variety is the spice of life my friend


    I guess if you like only plastic guns then you are deverse, but there is more to gun collecting than AR's and Glocks. :rolleyes:

    I have AK's, AR's, Mausers,Enfields, handguns, shotguns, even a couple of drop blocks.

    P.S. and Zero Glocks! ;)
     

    Disposable Heart

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    Whenever I hear the accuracy arguement against the Mosin, I cringe. Pick one with a good bore, decent crown, bed it using cut up aluminum cans, get used to the sights and fix your flinch, you have a solid rifle with reasonable potential if you keep your expectations reasonable. After only minor work and consumption of a diet coke for action bedding material :D, I have had solid ones do 2-3 MOA with milsurp junk ammo.

    Handloading really unlocks the rifle's potential. Matching ammo to your particular rifle in OAL, bullet weight, diameter, etc... it will do 2 MOA with little work solidly, some people online getting MOA with optics (not craptastic scout mounts, talking drilled and tapped recievers here) and matched loads. Not amazing, but adequate in my book. They vary quite a bit with bore diameter, so matching to the rifle's bore is essential to accuracy.

    Considering how accuracy requirements went from minute of deer to sub MOA and being babied with ARs in terms of accuracy and recoil, of course the Mosin is unacceptable. But for deer, hog, short range elk/caribou, and other animals, the Mosin is more than enough with good ammo. 7.62x54 will tap on low end .30-06 ballistics with some squeezing on the powder...

    If I had to take someone with me waltzing Matilda after things go south, having a choice between someone with the latest duded up AR/AK/Bolt action and little trigger time, vs. a guy with a Mosin they bedded, fired alot and has a decent amount of ammo and trigger time, I would take the Mosin guy with me. It's a solid enthusiast's rifle, not just a toy.

    Then again, the original post could be just long enough to warrant as a 'quality post' for the classifieds :D ;)
     

    Hoosier8

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    I guess if you like only plastic guns then you are deverse, but there is more to gun collecting than AR's and Glocks. :rolleyes:

    I have AK's, AR's, Mausers,Enfields, handguns, shotguns, even a couple of drop blocks.

    P.S. and Zero Glocks! ;)

    Aww, I like Glocks and have one. But I also have a matching K98.

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    rkesar

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    I've had a couple and after cleaning them really good they had smooth actions and were accurate. I like them because they aren't expensive and ammos cheap
     
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    History. Mosins have been in every major conflict since 1891, and most of the smaller ones. Where has this one been? Stalingrad? Leningrad? Kursk? Berlin? Tons of history yet I can bring one home for less than a day's pay. Not to mention that it wasn't all that many years ago these very rifles could have been turned on us, had WWIII broke out. I like to consider the Soviet and other Warsaw Pact models as trophies. Also, the Finn versions are testament to just what a determined, freedom loving people can do against a totalitarian regime, despite being badly outnumbered and outgunned.
     

    castle134

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    I think its a fun gun to shoot I've shot a few loved it few people I know just didn't like the length of the rifle and turned them away from giving it a fair chance I think
     

    Denny347

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    I focus on Mosins but I still collect others, Yugo Mauser sniper, vet bringback K98k, etc. There are so many different variations of the Mosins to collect.

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    tradertator

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    It's a lot of firepower for $100. I get it. But when people make them out as something they are not, is when I roll my eyes (cheap plastic stock, bipod mounted to the barrel, cheap ass 40X scope mounted in the rear sight, and calling it a modern sniper rifle :laugh:).
     

    Mark-DuCo

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    Aww, I like Glocks and have one. But I also have a matching K98.

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    I say to each his own, but personally I love shooting my Mosin. I know my AR will out shoot it every single time, but that extra little punch in the shoulder gives me a nice warm fuzzy feeling. I only wish my XDm matched my Mosin.
     

    AtlasDM

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    It's a lot of firepower for $100. I get it. But when people make them out as something they are not, is when I roll my eyes (cheap plastic stock, bipod mounted to the barrel, cheap ass 40X scope mounted in the rear sight, and calling it a modern sniper rifle :laugh:).

    So I'm guessing you wouldn't get one of these Mosin Nagant kits then? ;)

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    BigMoose

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    Sorry. I refuse to use these things.

    I know they are cheap, but I can't bring myself to own a piece of communist crap.

    I can't stand that they were given to troops that were treated like cannon fodder.
    I can't stand the fact that they were used as oppressive tools. Even with fighting Germany they oppressed the lands they took back from Germany.

    The same reason I can't stand AKs, SKSs, etc etc. The price on them is cheap, that is the only reason people like them. It's replacement gets NO attention (The SVD) because it's expensive and no one wants to pony up that much for combloc crap.

    Don't be a communist heathen!
     
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