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    Que

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    public servant said:
    It appears he sought attention and got it.

    IMO, of course.
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    I don't know the entire story behind this incident. I don't know what the guy said to the police or how much a disturbance loud music can be when officers are doing their job. All I have is common sense and if the music prevented them from doing their job, then how much did it help to leave what they were doing to arrest the guy and then shoot the dog? Did that help to calm the noise? I still didn't see anyone turn the music down in the car.

    I do not agree with people who strap n their .44 and look for a police officer to approach them; however, if it's legal, why would any officer have to give that person the attention they are looking for? It seems to me the only people really looking for attention from the police are those who are breaking the law. If no law is being broken, then people should be left alone!
     
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    Que said:
    I don't know the entire story behind this incident.
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    And neither do I.

    Is it possible he was targeted because of the loud music and his refusal to turn it down? Yes.

    Is it possible he was targeted for prior events involving complaints against the PD. Yep.

    It did appear that as soon as he pulled up with the music blaring he drew attention. I'm not sure they could immediately identify who he was.

    I wouldn't want the distraction of loud music drowning out commands or instructions if I were in the middle of emptying a house at gun point.
     
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    I am only speculating here, but I am thinking that Mr. Rosby makes extra money from suing the police. I think that he purposefully caught the attention of the police and refused to comply with orders in order to get arrested and be able to file another law suit against them.

    The dog getting shot was an unfortunate sidebar, but I have a feeling Mr. Rosby will make hay from it happening.
     
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    I just imagine living across the street with kids on your front porch minding your own business and the lead starts to fly.

    One of these days the police are going to pull a stunt like this only to find themselves completely surrounded by concerned tax paying citizens, they will be disarmed and dealt with accordingly, er not.
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    How so?
     
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    And neither do I.

    Is it possible he was targeted because of the loud music and his refusal to turn it down? [STRIKE]Yes[/STRIKE]. Could be "No" just as easily as "Yes".

    Is it possible he was targeted for prior events involving complaints against the PD. [STRIKE]Yep[/STRIKE]. Could be "Nope" just as easily as "Yep".

    It did appear that as soon as he pulled up with the music blaring he drew attention. I'm not sure they could immediately identify who he was.

    I wouldn't want the distraction of loud music drowning out commands or instructions if I were in the middle of emptying a house at gun point.
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    "... as soon as he pulled up..."? What video were you watching? I didn't see the one with the driver pulling up into an area that was void of any noise. The video I watched began with music in the background. Point me to the video you watched, because I may have seen something different.

    The guys taking the video showed the house being cleared as the guy was standing on the corner with the dog. How could that have disturbed them?

    I'm no cop-hater, but I'm certainly able to look at things realistically. What happened here was just wrong on several accounts.
     
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    Que said:
    "... as soon as he pulled up..."? What video were you watching? I didn't see the one with the driver pulling up into an area that was void of any noise. The video I watched began with music in the background. Point me to the video you watched, because I may have seen something different.

    The guys taking the video showed the house being cleared as the guy was standing on the corner with the dog. How could that have disturbed them?

    I'm no cop-hater, but I'm certainly able to look at things realistically. What happened here was just wrong on several accounts.
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    About 1:30 into this video. He draws the attention of the cop between the cars.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffwxaTpJTyI#at=108

    I'm sorry. Am I being unrealistic? :dunno:

    Oh well...carry on.
     
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    About 1:30 into this video. He draws the attention of the cop between the cars.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffwxaTpJTyI#at=108

    I'm sorry. Am I being unrealistic? :dunno:

    Oh well...carry on.
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    Okay, I didn't see this video, but the guys taking the video said his house was over there. Was he looking for trouble by going home?

    No need to apologize. Like I said, I don't know the entire story and we are all simply providing conjecture. In this case, I'm just not willing to simply say the officers acted properly, which is just my opinion.
     
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    Que said:
    Okay, I didn't see this video, but the guys taking the video said his house was over there. Was he looking for trouble by going home?

    No need to apologize. Like I said, I don't know the entire story and we are all simply providing conjecture. In this case, I'm just not willing to simply say the officers acted properly, which is just my opinion.
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    I thought the guys in the video asked if his house was over there. Not sure...could have been either way.

    Did the police act properly? I'm not sure either. I guess somewhere on Facebook someone has posted the officer that shot the dogs name, address and phone number.

    I guess one could call him and ask his take on it.

    For the record...I hate that the dog was shot.
     
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    When I was a kid I was told to listen to police and that they were always there to help. The one time I got pulled over was for a headlight out. One cop stood back behind my window while his partner shined his flashlight in my car searching. The few that I have dealt with have not been real friendly. I know the saying one bad apple spoils the bunch, but I'm wondering if it's harder to find one good one in the whole orchard. As for this video, I don't see why he was handcuffed in the first place. And for the shooting the dog part, the cop should have shot it again to put it out.

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    I hope the cop that shot the dog is fired and sued by the owner. That did not call for deadly force at all, and he endangered the rest of the police and civilians in the area by pulling the gun and shooting it wildly at the dog like that. Guess some pepper spray or a taser wasn't enough. Seriously, F*** that policeman.
     
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