i also let police search my car. If you've got nothing to hide, amirite?
It doesn't mean you, or everybody else SHOULD.
Do you support a national firearms registry? you've got nothing to hide.
i also let police search my car. If you've got nothing to hide, amirite?
ExactlyIt doesn't mean you, or everybody else SHOULD.
Do you support a national firearms registry? you've got nothing to hide.
Back in the 80s during an informal get together at old Atterbury with about 40 shooters. Looking west we could see about 10 ISP cars and a CO coming east towards the range. They all pull in, announce over speaker for us to unload and get paperwork out. Polite, professional, and courteous, afterwards they started shooting some of the guns when invited to do so. Must have just been a slow day.
Unless we have probable cause s crime is being committed we shouldn't be doing any of the things you listed. So I'm curious to see what people respond
If they wanted to be sure that no one is using "illegal" weapons they need to run every serial number of every gun that goes to their range. Plus do a background check on each person. I asked if he saw the paperwork for the people in the line in front of me and he said no, they said they were shooting hand guns. I asked how he didn't know there was and AOW or pistol with a stock in the case and if he even looked at the guns. He said he didn't.
I didn't "over-react". I reacted in kind to his temperament and demeanor. When he said it's policy I reminded him of some policies from the 1950's and 60's. He then said all* ranges are required to see it. This I knew was a flagrant lie. As LJK basically said it's not a document they should have access to unless they are IRS or ATF.
Do a search on here for NFA and Point Blank. There are multiple threads about it. Even one from a mod on here who was threatened by the RO. PB is a flippin' joke.
Dan
Is seeing what looks to be too short to be a legal rifle probable cause?
SBR is legal, in the state of Indiana, what are you talking about.
So, it is required by law that you need to have a valid driver's license to drive a car. Is it a proper cause to pull you over, just because you're driving a car, nothing else.
Can you repeat that in the form of a question?
But seriously, dont get so damned snippy. Just asking as its quite common to drive a car, not so common to carry a gun, and even LESS common to have an SBR. And yes they are legal provided you have jumped through the hoops. Thats all. Sheesh.
I've had leo show up at a private property shoot just to make sure it wasn't a war happening. He didn't ask to see any stamps and was very cool about it all. There were all kinds of classlll, SlideFire and exploding targets.
It wasn't me. I don't know if they pursued it but I hope they did and wonDid you get a settlement?
Is seeing what looks to be too short to be a legal rifle probable cause?
Absolutely not!
The mere possession of an SBR is not grounds enough for me as an LEO (NON ATF) to ask for proof that it is legal. I could only ask for that type of information AFTER I had knowledge that a crime was committed or was about to be committed.
Probable cause is suppose to be the safeguard that protects you from unlawful search and seizures. Unfortunately not all LEO's play fair.
It doesn't mean you, or everybody else SHOULD.
Do you support a national firearms registry? you've got nothing to hide.