Required Battle Gear

[SmileDocHill]

Does a king size snickers fit in an MP5 mag pouch I wonder..

I like where your heads at. Further research is needed.

 

[ditcherman]

Does a king size snickers McRib fit in an MP5 mag pouch I wonder..

FIFY

 

[BigMoose]

FIFY

Ohh I love McRibs and I know thats a damn bad idea, putting that McRib container in sideways would result in one fecking MESSY BBQ leak.

 

[ZurokSlayer7X9]

Ok, what is the sudden interest in the McRib. This is like the third thread with people mentioning the McRib.

 

[snapping turtle]

Whenever pork supplies get high and they buy the scarps for McRib you get Mickies D's McRib back for a limited time. Now is one of those times.

McRibs availability also seems to go along with bad things happening to me personally or worldwide.

I love one. After that I can wait a couple years before I want another

 

[BigMoose]

Ok, what is the sudden interest in the McRib. This is like the third thread with people mentioning the McRib.

Its a very limited availability item at McDonald's.. often only available years apart for a month at a time, and then most of the time its not even available nationally.

It used to be regular offering.

Its pretty much only available when they can get a deal on the meat supply.

Ever since the Discontinuance as a regular offering, its got a rather fervent cult following.

 

[Vanderbilt]

You'll find that anything in this subject opens up into a wide rabbit hole. We all have fantasies about being a Wolverine in a Red Dawn Scenario, or picking off rabid furies at 300 yards, but reality is far more complicated. There are a lot of variables that will determine what kit and what strategies you should use. Things like geography, demographics, political and economical situations, OPSEC, and many many more. Many authors and internet profiles have studied this and have their own pieces to add, but remember, there is no panacea here. Some people to look into are: Matthew Bracken, Fernando "FerFAL" Aguire, Forward Observer, Garand Thumb, and many more.

The first point is you can divide preparedness into different levels on a pyramid with the bottom layers being the most important (think foundations on a house). I would suggest that the first layer is the temperament of your mind. They say you cannot survive three seconds without hope, this is what they mean. Are you mentally able to withstand a potential SHTF scenario? The second level IMO would be physical health and fitness. Third would be sound strategy and situational awareness (not just personal awareness, but also know your region and what threats you may come across). Fourth layer would be you logistics and support (your network and who can you count on). Only at the fifth level would I put the specifics of gear and equipment. Gear and equipment will likely be determined by the variables presented during the lower levels of the pyramid.

Many of these variables will be determined by the situation in your region. Things like terrain, geography, demographics, and political situation. Forward Observer on youtube as an excellent series on doing an area study that will determine some of these variables. Things like what the enemy will likely be to what their most likely course of action will be. Obviously you cannot prepare for every eventuality, but you can lessen the effects of Strategic Shock by figuring this stuff out. These things will determine the "mission". One situation may call for a concealed handgun and civies with a "grey-man" strategy. Another situation may call for a full on plate carrier and combat load.

Another big point is keep your fantasies and ego in check. I used to want to carry a full 21" barreled FAL as my main rifle because it looked cool, but ditched that for a simple AR, simply because the FAL wasn't worth it for the weight. I used to imagine fighting like Mel Gibson in The Patriot, saving the country against those rabid furies. Then I actually watched The Patriot, and realized how horrible war really is (think the enemy torching your family simply because you ambushed a supply convoy or something).

I could go on, but the point is, many variables will determine your kit, and even thus so, these variables are far more important. I'll leave this with a small story. This comes from the youtube reviewer NutNFancy. In one video he was explaining the exact stuff above. To make the point, he gave a story in his past. So he used to be really big into paintball, and would do paintball every week with his friends. They had the best guns, the best equipment, everything. One day they were set to play against two dipsticks with the basic rental guns, flannel jacket and jeans, with one having a mullet and the other having a ponytail. Sure of an easy victory, NutNFancy and his friends got creamed every time by these two guys. They used guerilla tactics and were very mobile. Good gear can act as a force multiplier, but many times proper strategy and knowing your limits and capabilities will win at the end of the day.

....or more to the point and I don't recall the exact quote but "you could be the most trained individual out there, yet a 10 year old with an antique pos stumbles up behind you and gets the perfect shot" all that preparation and training has just been nullified! I'm a worn out old man, though I'm a combat arms vet, I long ago came to grips with reality.

 

[SmileDocHill]

It's important to train. Here's a pic my buddy took of me at our last load out dry run.

 

[jwamplerusa]

It's important to train. Here's a pic my buddy took of me at our last load out dry run.

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Alright, Who took my picture without my permission?

 

[TJ Kackowski]

It's important to train. Here's a pic my buddy took of me at our last load out dry run.

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And once again it looks like you forgot your night vision kit.

 

[Cameramonkey]

And once again it looks like you forgot your night vision kit.

Its gotta be in ONE of those bags.

Wait, looking at that dude, most of those bags contain snacky treats.

 

[Leadeye]

I'll just stay home, it's a long walk for trouble to get here.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

It's important to train. Here's a pic my buddy took of me at our last load out dry run.

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True Bro. He's walking cover and concealment for his squad.

Those boots deserve a "Best Supporting Role" award.

 

[Tombs]

A good medical kit, and knowledge of how to use it.
Helmet that will protect you from things falling on your head.
Armor from a reputable manufacturer that meets a spec you're comfortable with, and is light enough that you can still run at least a mile. Bonus points for neck protection
Communications you have regularly used and are fully familiar with operating, and are aware of the risks presented by operating it.
Enough food and water to get you by for a few days.
Night vision, proper passive image intensification, is going to be an immeasurable benefit.
Make sure you have comfortable and well fitting shoes or boots suitable to protect your feet.
Take note of anything that isn't water proof, and make sure you pack it properly
Clothing appropriate for the weather that you might encounter in the worst case

A big aid would be if you have knowledge of electronic warfare and can jam things in common wifi bands. (This would give you some protection from common commercial drones)

Make sure you're aware of your emissions, especially in IR and EMF. Having a cellphone in your pocket is going to make you glow like you have a spotlight, to anyone with night vision. And I wouldn't exactly trust a lot of the shielding out there.

Guns and ammo are probably what needs to least amount of consideration for, this isn't the 1940s. Doing cool guy stuff is going to result in a pretty swift death. There's plenty of things you can do to make life for the opposition unbearable that they will have no realistic means to counter.

Also remember things like this exist https://tplogic.com/optical-detection/sentinel-s45/

 

[ditcherman]

Armor from a reputable manufacturer that meets a spec you're comfortable with, and is light enough that you can still run at least a mile.

Run a mile?
Can anyone tell me where I can get some of that negative weight armor?
Seriously lots of good ideas in here. Dad had a bunch of older (now) RC equipment around and I’ve always wondered if that could mess with drones.

 

[Ark]

Run a mile?
Can anyone tell me where I can get some of that negative weight armor?
Seriously lots of good ideas in here. Dad had a bunch of older (now) RC equipment around and I’ve always wondered if that could mess with drones.

I could run a mile in my kit. It would suck and my knee would be crying, though.

Anything past a 30 second sprint is more of a hasty shuffle than a real run when you have 30 pounds bouncing on your shoulders and a rifle in your hands, though.

 

[ditcherman]

I could run a mile in my kit. It would suck and my knee would be crying, though.

Anything past a 30 second sprint is more of a hasty shuffle than a real run when you have 30 pounds bouncing on your shoulders and a rifle in your hands, though.

Ok I'm good with a hasty shuffle. Trying to get better.

I could run a mile in my kit. It would suck and my knee would be crying, though.

Anything past a 30 second sprint is more of a hasty shuffle than a real run when you have 30 pounds bouncing on your shoulders and a rifle in your hands, though.

Ok I’m good with a hasty shuffle but would rather walk with 40 pounds for days, with a good pack.
Load out kit is definitely not “good pack”.

Trying to get better. Used to do this drill



Except we kept going for a certain amount of time, maybe five minutes to see how many we could complete. That’s pretty good exercise for me.

 

[teddy12b]

I like these little hypothetical questions from time to time. One thing I'll mention that I don't see often is the concept of time & weather. I think a lot of people assume this mythical bad day will show up when it's warm and sunny. What is your plan when you get there and a couple hours turns into 3 days of being there and two of them are rainy. Does your loadout have room for a poncho, space blanket, or both?

When's that last time you went backpacking or slept outdoors? When's the last competition you went to and saw where you stack up compared to other people? I think most people are going to be better off staying in their parents basement with those candy bags waiting for their new governmental master to tell them what to do.

 

[Ziggidy]

Just read through this…..I’m gonna die.

 

[Tombs]

Just read through this…..I’m gonna die.

You might be surprised.

I've learned a lot from a friend who was conscripted in the Russian military. Really great intel on what a modern battle field would look like today and how things would play out. Also what living with those conditions is like, and how to survive it.