Approximately 20 killed in nightclub shooting

[printcraft]

I don't think it implies any sympathy.
I don't see what they are supposed to call her besides "widow".
"Wife of the deceased terrorist"?

We're still glossing over the fact that the ***** was planning the attacks with him.

 

[KLB]

We're still glossing over the fact that the ***** was planning the attacks with him.

She may have been, but that has nothing to do with being or not being a widow.

 

[BigRed]

Update in Noor Salman trial: The defense is calling for a mistrial after just learning Omar Mateen’s father was an FBI informant

So it turns out his dad worked for the US government, with the FBI, and provided funds to "unknowns" in Afghanistan and Turkey?

That's so weird, because from the news I got the impression he was simply a "lone wolf" that hated homosexuals.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Prosecutors: Pulse attacker intended to attack Disney World's shopping and entertainment complex by hiding a gun in a stroller, but became spooked by police and instead chose the gay club as his target.

The story I heard told on the radio yesterday said Pulse was actually his third choice.

 

[printcraft]

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

 

[printcraft]

Not you

 

[Fargo]

We're still glossing over the fact that the ***** was planning the attacks with him.

Ummmmm, that would be the very "fact" the jury found to be unproven.

If the Feds couldn't prove with the resources brought to bear on a case this nature, I'm hard pressed to call it a "fact.

 

[Kutnupe14]

The story I heard told on the radio yesterday said Pulse was actually his third choice.

Downtown Disney? Yeah that would've been folly. That place has a ton of LE patrolling the area.

 

[printcraft]

Ummmmm, that would be the very "fact" the jury found to be unproven.

If the Feds couldn't prove with the resources brought to bear on a case this nature, I'm hard pressed to call it a "fact.

*OJ Simpson likes this.

 

[Alamo]

Foreman: Jury 'convinced' Noor Salman knew Mateen was plotting attack, but couldn't convict - Orlando Sentinel

Having said that, I want to make several things very clear. A verdict of not guilty did NOT mean that we thought Noor Salman was unaware of what Omar Mateen was planning to do. On the contrary we were convinced she did know. She may not have known what day, or what location, but she knew. However, we were not tasked with deciding if she was aware of a potential attack. The charges were aiding and abetting and obstruction of justice. I felt the both the prosecution and the defense did an excellent job presenting their case. I wish that the FBI had recorded their interviews with Ms. Salman as there were several significant inconsistencies with the written summaries of her statements. The bottom line is that, based on the letter of the law, and the detailed instructions provided by the court, we were presented with no option but to return a verdict of not guilty.”

FBI has a credibility problem. Wonder why.

 

[femurphy77]

Foreman: Jury 'convinced' Noor Salman knew Mateen was plotting attack, but couldn't convict - Orlando Sentinel

"Having said that, I want to make several things very clear. A verdict of not guilty did NOT mean that we thought Noor Salman was unaware of what Omar Mateen was planning to do. On the contrary we were convinced she did know. She may not have known what day, or what location, but she knew. However, we were not tasked with deciding if she was aware of a potential attack. The charges were aiding and abetting and obstruction of justice. I felt the both the prosecution and the defense did an excellent job presenting their case. I wish that the FBI had recorded their interviews with Ms. Salman as there were several significant inconsistencies with the written summaries of her statements. The bottom line is that, based on the letter of the law, and the detailed instructions provided by the court, we were presented with no option but to return a verdict of not guilty.”

FBI has a credibility problem. Wonder why.

I've sat on juries like this where evidence was there to prove guilt but based on letter of the law, charges and instructions you couldn't convict. I was young and believed in the system. That WON'T happen again. Of course that will get me knocked out of the pool long before the trial ever starts so it will never be an issue.

 

[Fargo]

Isn’t it weird that when the feds want to try to stretch the law to mean something new, they pick a case like this one? Or, when they want to force Apple to unlock phones, they use the San Bernardino case (while lying about it).Or if they want to pay private companies to trespass on your computer, it’s only to stop child pornographers.

 

[BigRed]

FBI has a credibility problem. Wonder why.

Next thing you know they will be using snipers to murder women and children in their cabin on the ridge.

 

[Fargo]

I've sat on juries like this where evidence was there to prove guilt but based on letter of the law, charges and instructions you couldn't convict. I was young and believed in the system. That WON'T happen again. Of course that will get me knocked out of the pool long before the trial ever starts so it will never be an issue.

Do we really want to make Obama’s “see something say something” a criminal statute?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Judge dismisses lawsuit filed by victims of the Pulse shooting against Twitter, Facebook, Google.

Their claim was that the companies didn't do enough to stop Mateen from accessing ISIL propaganda.

Pulse families' lawsuit against Twitter, Facebook and Google dismissed - Orlando Sentinel

 

[actaeon277]

Judge dismisses lawsuit filed by victims of the Pulse shooting against Twitter, Facebook, Google.

Their claim was that the companies didn't do enough to stop Mateen from accessing ISIL propaganda.

Pulse families' lawsuit against Twitter, Facebook and Google dismissed - Orlando Sentinel

I feel sorry for people that lost someone.
But I lose that sorrow when they do stupid things like this.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I feel sorry for people that lost someone.
But I lose that sorrow when they do stupid things like this.

Yeah, this has to just be lawyers throwing **** at the wall to see what sticks. Like lawsuits against gun manufacturers, doesn't make any sense.

 

[HoughMade]

Judge dismisses lawsuit filed by victims of the Pulse shooting against Twitter, Facebook, Google.

Their claim was that the companies didn't do enough to stop Mateen from accessing ISIL propaganda.

Pulse families' lawsuit against Twitter, Facebook and Google dismissed - Orlando Sentinel

Good. That's nuts.