Bad day for scooter drivers

[bwframe]

If any vehicle is taxed, licensed and regulated for using the public thoroughfares, then all vehicles and operators should be treated the same.

 

[hornadylnl]

We see who's for liberty and who's for bigger government.

 

[Mr Evilwrench]

Roads must be paid for to exist, and they are a benefit. It would be nice if we could be trusted to buy and own means of transport without damaging others' rights, but some of these philistines just ruin it for everyone.

 

[indyjs]

I'll up the ante. They should bring back vehicle inspection also. If only for tires...............

 

[BE Mike]

I'll up the ante. They should bring back vehicle inspection also. If only for tires...............

Safety inspections have little to do with safety. I'm really surprised to see so many gun owners asking for more bureaucratic regulation and taxation.

 

[JMoses]

It's not the scooters it's the idiots that ride them. With that said, I support the movement to make them get insurance, plates, and require a license to operate. Can't drive 10 miles from here and not see two kids on one scooter, or even three kids...they don't watch what they are doing and they seldom wear any kind of brain bucket. They drive right past the police station here, riding double, and no one says a word. So yeah, regulate the hell out of them.

BTW...some of the fat boys I see riding these little 49.9 cc scooters could use some time on a bicycle.

The Class B motorcycles are not required insurance, unfortunately. So if you have an incident with one, it will go on YOUR uninsured motorist on your insurance.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Registering bicycles is ludicrous.

This is why it is the law in Lafayette.

 

[churchmouse]

We see who's for liberty and who's for bigger government.

Just not so. Fair and even across the board. If these POS liquor scooters were held to the same standards as "EVERY ONE ELSE" then the drunken owners would have to walk/thumb/mass transit to the bar and the world would possibly be a safer place. It's for the children....really.


Seriously, how can equal treatment be for bigger Gov.

 

[churchmouse]

Safety inspections have little to do with safety. I'm really surprised to see so many gun owners asking for more bureaucratic regulation and taxation.

Not in line for vehicle inspections just make those who use the public roads held to the same standards as the rest of us. Again, whats the beef with this. If I have to pay all of the expense to be on the roads "Legally" then why do those people get a break.....why?????

 

[bwframe]

We see who's for liberty and who's for bigger government.

... I'm really surprised to see so many gun owners asking for more bureaucratic regulation and taxation.

Nope, lets just get rid of all the regulation, registration, licensing, mandatory insuring and fuel taxing on ALL motor vehicles. Then we'll all be on even status. That will solve this problem similarly and drastically reduce the size of the g-g-gubment.

If it moves on wheels on the public roadway, all need to be treated the same.
Simple as that. No call for the, foolishly suggested, liberalism or socialism inferences.

 

[BE Mike]

Not in line for vehicle inspections just make those who use the public roads held to the same standards as the rest of us. Again, whats the beef with this. If I have to pay all of the expense to be on the roads "Legally" then why do those people get a break.....why?????

They were on the road legally, until politicians decided to change the law. None of this has to do with safety. Some of the same people who are asking for scooter regulation would have a hissy fit if the legislature passed a helmet law.

 

[hornadylnl]

They were on the road legally, until politicians decided to change the law. None of this has to do with safety. Some of the same people who are asking for scooter regulation would have a hissy fit if the legislature passed a helmet law.

I don't ride a scooter so string em up.

 

[bwframe]

They were on the road legally, until politicians decided to change the law...
...Some of the same people who are asking for scooter regulation would have a hissy fit if the legislature passed a helmet law.

State representatives voted in the law changes due to the pressure of their constituents. The same reason they won't pass a motorcycle helmet law.

 

[BE Mike]

State representatives voted in the law changes due to the pressure of their constituents. The same reason they won't pass a motorcycle helmet law.

Yep, poor people who ride scooters don't have much pull with politicians. The only reason I see that people on here want them regulated (off the road) is because they get in their way and slow them down.

 

[PistolBob]

Yep, poor people who ride scooters don't have much pull with politicians.

Same pull as anyone else. Grab a pencil and write a letter....it'll cost you the price of a stamp.

 

[PistolBob]

I fear that the unintended consequences of the new law will be more people who have had their DL suspended or revoked because of DUI will now be driving instead of riding. I'm against the new law. Scooters may bother some of you, but I think that they filled a needed nitch. Do they really need to be regulated for safety reasons or because some people find them irritating?

Why should Scooter riders not have to be insured? They are responsible for the damages they do. So make them get insurance.

I don't care if they have plates, but I'd like to know I'm going to be compensated when they run into my property and damage it.

 

[Hogwylde]

Doesn't ANYTHING that operates on public roads in Indiana that travels at speeds of less than 25 MPH require a Slow Moving Vehicle (SMV) sign to be attached?? (Amish buggies come to mind, and all the farm equipment that I used to drive all over the place.) Why wouldn't this also apply to scooters since they are required to operate at no more than 25 MPH??

 

[BE Mike]

Same pull as anyone else. Grab a pencil and write a letter....it'll cost you the price of a stamp.

Yeah, that's how it's supposed to work, but you know that organized groups get the most for their vote. A poor guy that can only afford a scooter to get to and from work isn't part of any lobby. Guys that can afford expensive toys like motorcycles, organize and contribute money to lobby efforts. To be clear, I don't own a scooter; don't know anyone who owns a scooter or anyone who lost their license because of a DUI. I suppose the reason I can relate to the scooter riders is the years that I couldn't afford a car and rode a bicycle to and from work/ school. I had cars run me off the road, throw things at me and cuss me out. I would ride as far to the right of the pavement as I could. These are the same type of people who want to get scooters off the road by taxing them and regulating them off the street.

 

[HoughMade]

I guess I'm out in left field on this one...

- I believe that people who make dumb mistakes and shouldn't be allowed to drive a car should still have some sort of option to get to work. You people who say "public transportation"....how many places is that an option? It's not here or in most places in Indiana.

- I don't believe they should have to get liability insurance. Can a 50cc scooter cause damage to someone else? Yes. How often does it happen? How big of a problem is it? Again, call me crazy, but poor people need to get places too.

- I don't believe they should have to be registered. Why should they? "To maintain the roads, you say". What kind of wear does a scooter travelling at fast bicycle speeds cause compared to a car or even a motorcycle that weighs 3 times more? Again, poor people need to get places too.

- "But it's not fair that I have to pay and they don't" If you want to ride a 50cc scooter, you will be treated the exact same way. There is no discrimination. Make your choice. Personally, over-regulation of cars and trucks does not make me want to over-regulate scooter "just to be fair." I think such an attitude is just plain weird.

Look, mobility is needed to make it in this world. It just is. The cheapest form of "welfare" we can have is not to make it harder for those of limited means to be mobile...and maybe get, or keep, a job. People make mistakes and there are consequences, but do we really have to make those consequences so harsh that we increase the likelihood of these people going on public assistance? Is that really the goal?

Besides that...just why? Is there really some sort of epidemic that needs more laws to address? I suspect that under 50cc scooter issues are relatively rare, but, for whatever reason, people get really, really mad about it....and every local reporter looking for a controversy thinks its a story. I love it how english majors who aren't skillful enough to get jobs writing assembly manuals now drive local and state-wide political agendas.

 

[PistolBob]

Yeah, that's how it's supposed to work, but you know that organized groups get the most for their vote. A poor guy that can only afford a scooter to get to and from work isn't part of any lobby. Guys that can afford expensive toys like motorcycles, organize and contribute money to lobby efforts. To be clear, I don't own a scooter; don't know anyone who owns a scooter or anyone who lost their license because of a DUI. I suppose the reason I can relate to the scooter riders is the years that I couldn't afford a car and rode a bicycle to and from work/ school. I had cars run me off the road, throw things at me and cuss me out. I would ride as far to the right of the pavement as I could. These are the same type of people who want to get scooters off the road by taxing them and regulating them off the street.

Mike...a letter writing campaign can be started at the grassroot level. They will need to put down the video game and pick up a pencil though. I LOVE riding scooters, they are great fun but leting them run around uninsured is stupid. They weigh a couple hundred pounds, and move at 25-30 mph...that's one hell of an impact when they hit the side of your car or run over your kid. I don't have a problem with them being unplated, just uninsured.