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Cleveland 12 yr old with toy gun shot in park
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IMHO...stupid laws. The 55mph Speed Limit is a good example. Enforce it and drive the ire of everyone who is forced to drive it...across Nebraska, Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana. Mind numbing and angering at being forced to do so because there is a money generating speed trap over every hill you don't expect one. It quickly created a nation of scoff laws looking to evade the enemy LEO who's only purpose was to slow them down and cost them money. Us verses them with CB radios, radar detectives, and Smokey and Bandit movies.
Stupid laws just generates disdain for those tasked with enforcing them.
Maybe less discretion for LEO's written into the laws, as well. I know that LEO's are mandated with making arrests in certain situations instead of maybe using their good judgement and experience to just keep the peace and protect the citizenry.
alexanjl12
Expert
It looks like a video was released. I do not know the procedures of how these types of situations are handled when they respond to the scene, but they drove basically right up next to him. Would they not want to be farther back from someone who was reported to be waiving a gun around?
[video=youtube;7Z8qNUWekWE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z8qNUWekWE[/video]
[video=youtube;7Z8qNUWekWE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z8qNUWekWE[/video]
Maybe they were trying to get him out of his ooda loop.
Kirk Freeman
Grandmaster
LOL.
femurphy77
Grandmaster
It's a fairly clear video but doesn't clarify anything!
...maybe. We will need to ask them I guess.
Kirk Freeman
Grandmaster
No argument for law enforcement tanks?
"Our officers need tanks to disrupt OODA loops of 12 year old children."
"Our officers need tanks to disrupt OODA loops of 12 year old children."
Kirk Freeman
Grandmaster
Yes, the video makes me even more itchy than when I first read about it.
Not calling for any INGOesque cybermob and will wait for a full investigation, but this video is not making me any less itchy.
I've seen two other angles of the shooting and additional footage of the young man walking on the sidewalk waving the gun and pointing at pedestrians. What this view doesn't show is when he sees the squad car pull up he pulls up his sweater to reveal the gun.
So, the cop hopped out of the car and fired immediately, as far as I can tell. That certainly does not come close to the police report they filed or the PD's PR story. Looks like yet another assassination by an Ohio department.
I live in Cleveland, the video that is shown was released by the parents attorney. On the news they've shown all the angles from multiple cameras. My understanding is that the parents wanted all the videos and they released the one you have seen. I will try to find the links to the newscast video I watched on TV and post them.
Are you surprised? The first thing they do is try to twist the truth.
In the audio recording I just heard on CBS news, they officer describes the boy a black male, 20. Are you freaking kidding me? No 12 yr old looks 20. They rolled in fast on the kid, allegedly yelled at him to drop the gun and then shot him 2 seconds later.
In the audio recording I just heard on CBS news, they officer describes the boy a black male, 20. Are you freaking kidding me? No 12 yr old looks 20. They rolled in fast on the kid, allegedly yelled at him to drop the gun and then shot him 2 seconds later.
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femurphy77
Grandmaster
No 18 year old "child" looks like a grown main either. . . . .unless he's 6'5" and weighs 290 lbs.
Lots of assumptions in this post. Dare I ask how you are privy to this kid's "thug" education? And how was kid sitting on bench acting like a thug? Seems to me most thugs with guns, would notice the police approaching, and run away.... especially since there wasn't even a crime. This was a tragedy pure and simple. There's no indication that this kid was bad, he was probably more ignorant, if anything.
I don't understand why you are saying this. This 12 yr old is no where a man sized human. But in the eyes of an out of control police officer, he probably looked like Andre the Giant.
To explain, Officer Wilson described himself as a 5 yr old in the arms of Hulk Hogan. Wilson is 6-4, 210lbs. He is bigger than the average man and no 5yr old. At least Wilson was well coached on what to say. I hope the CPD hire the same coach...
