Close Call At Chuck E. Cheeses Pizza

[magic man]

I think you should have open carried.

Don't joke about that! I'm sure you'd have no problem getting ATM to OC there!

 

[ATM]

Again?

 

[vick1]

Illegal Carry

http://www.in.gov/isp/files/firearms_FAQ_02_08.pdf

Here is a start.. The only places that I see spelled out are Gov. Facilities and schools.

 

[Menace67]

I have carried there many times (well east washington anyhow)

You should always carry anywhere on east Washington
I live on the east side so that's my personal opinion

 

[dsol]

had a good meal and a good time.

A good meal? I thought you said you went to Chuck E. Cheese.... I am confused. Those words dont go together.

 

[Coltguy]

I do agree with the others and don't believe there is anything you can be prosecuted for. My question is if you did see the sign, would you have stayed or left immeditely?

 

[mcolford]

I saw the sign at the one in Kokomo a month or so when I took my daughter. I had already taken mine off before I went in (I was OC), but laughed when I saw the sign. My wife had told me that she had seen the sign last time she was there.

-MColford

 

[CalebToNowhere]

Prosecuted under what law? I'm assuming this must be a Chuck E. Cheese law. Will I be incarcerated in the ball pit for a period of not less than 5 years?

That's Awesome. Exactly how I feel. Do all of the anti gun establishments really think the bad guys are going to pay attention to their sign and be the slightest bit worried about prosecution, wait, i mean being asked to leave...?

 

[cqcn88]

Oh of course, don't you know criminals only commit crimes in places guns are allowed? How silly of you :-P

 

[indymike]

the OP does have a contractual interest in the property. The management wants him as a customer and has opened their doors to potential customers. That creates a contractual interest for him to be on their property. After he is caught breaking their rules and is asked to leave, the contractual interest is rescinded.

Exactly right. You can't under any circumstances be prosecuted if you are a customer and were not asked to leave first at a location that isn't listed as an exception to the law (eg. school function occurring at the establishment).

I always carry into establishments no matter how many "no firearms allowed" signs are posted except of course if they locations specifically listed in the law such as schools, beyond airport screening areas, etc.

You aren't breaking any law until they verbally confront you and if you know how to carry without printing and are smart about how you dress around the gun, this should never be an issue.

 

[henktermaat]

I took a pic of the sIgn last time I carried in there.

 

[henktermaat]

Judging by the wording of the sign, I'd say they know IN laws on the matter.

 

[youngda9]

The signs on the arcade games also say 50 cents...but we all know you have to put in 3 or more quarters to play

Those who carry should know their state's laws inside-out.

 

[Sticky]

That's Awesome. Exactly how I feel. Do all of the anti gun establishments really think the bad guys are going to pay attention to their sign and be the slightest bit worried about prosecution, wait, i mean being asked to leave...?

^^ The insane criminals might pay attention to the no-gun signs, if they are looking for a gun-free zone to victimize.

I would think many places would (and do) welcome legally armed citizens as both a deterrent and a defense.

Maybe a letter writing campaign to the no-gun stores, advising them of how attractive they are to the criminally insane?

Nah, nm...

 

[GeneralCarver]

Prosecuted under what law? I'm assuming this must be a Chuck E. Cheese law. Will I be incarcerated in the ball pit for a period of not less than 5 years?

The ball pit! Hahahah! LMAO.

 

[Indy317]

Exactly right. You can't under any circumstances be prosecuted if you are a customer and were not asked to leave first at a location that isn't listed as an exception to the law (eg. school function occurring at the establishment).

This is incorrect. You can absolutely be prosecuted. What may happen is that a judge or jury finds you "Not guilty." Or maybe an appeals court throws out your conviction. Still, you will be out thousands of dollars in legal fees. One may have a civil suit, but even I would question if such a lawsuit would end up in the favor of the person arrested.

 

[Rookie]

Source for your statements?

 

[E5RANGER375]

This is incorrect. You can absolutely be prosecuted. What may happen is that a judge or jury finds you "Not guilty." Or maybe an appeals court throws out your conviction. Still, you will be out thousands of dollars in legal fees. One may have a civil suit, but even I would question if such a lawsuit would end up in the favor of the person arrested.

yeah sadly, the govt can and will prosecute you according to their interpretation of the law or a made up one even. We all should know this after seeing how liberty sanders was unjustly prosecuted after thwarting off vicious dogs in carmel. The police officer (whom liberty had called himself) and the prosecutor were nothing more than oppressive entities bent on injustice.

even if or when you are found innocent, a lengthy court case would almost financially ruin any average family. look at all the cases of the IRS screwing over business owners by confiscating everything including the pots and pans of their restaurants as "evidence". They dont actually close the doors, but who could afford to go out and buy all new cookware for a restaurant that may already be scraping by? the govt knows what they are doing. we live under a govt that is more concerned and good at oppressing the American people than protecting it. Im sure soon they will find a way to further oppress our freedom of speech. as of right now they are making naughty list with people who "speak out" about govt abuses of power. keep your powder dry people, there is always someone who wishes you harm in this world

 

[Denny347]

Source for your statements?

IC 35-43-2-2
Criminal trespass; denial of entry; permission to enter; exceptions
Sec. 2. (a) A person who:
(1) not having a contractual interest in the property, knowingly or intentionally enters the real property of another person after having been denied entry by the other person or that person's agent;
(2) not having a contractual interest in the property, knowingly or intentionally refuses to leave the real property of another person after having been asked to leave by the other person or that person's agent;
(3) accompanies another person in a vehicle, with knowledge that the other person knowingly or intentionally is exerting unauthorized control over the vehicle;
(4) knowingly or intentionally interferes with the possession or use of the property of another person without the person's consent;
(5) not having a contractual interest in the property, knowingly or intentionally enters the dwelling of another person without the person's consent;
(6) knowingly or intentionally:
(A) travels by train without lawful authority or the railroad carrier's consent; and (B) rides on the outside of a train or inside a passenger car, locomotive, or freight car, including a boxcar, flatbed, or container without lawful authority or the railroad carrier's consent;
(7) not having a contractual interest in the property, knowingly or intentionally enters or refuses to leave the property of another person after having been prohibited from entering or asked to leave the property by a law enforcement officer when the property is:
(A) vacant or designated by a municipality or county enforcement authority to be abandoned property; and
(B) subject to abatement under IC 32-30-6, IC 32-30-7, IC 32-30-8, IC 36-7-9, or IC 36-7-36; or
(8) knowingly or intentionally enters the property of another person after being denied entry by a court order that has been issued to the person or issued to the general public by conspicuous posting on or around the premises in areas where a person can observe the order when the property:
(A) has been designated by a municipality or county enforcement authority to be a vacant property or an abandoned property; and
(B) is subject to an abatement order under IC 32-30-6, IC 32-30-7, IC 32-30-8, IC 36-7-9, or IC 36-7-36;
commits criminal trespass, a Class A misdemeanor. However, the offense is a Class D felony if it is committed on a scientific research facility, on a key facility, on a facility belonging to a public utility (as defined in IC 32-24-1-5.9(a)), on school property, or on a school bus or the person has a prior unrelated conviction for an offense under this section concerning the same property.
(b) A person has been denied entry under subdivision (a)(1) of this section when the person has been denied entry by means of:
(1) personal communication, oral or written;
(2) posting or exhibiting a notice at the main entrance in a manner that is either prescribed by law or likely to come to the attention of the public; or
(3) a hearing authority or court order under IC 32-30-6, IC 32-30-7, IC 32-30-8, IC 36-7-9, or IC 36-7-36.
(c) A law enforcement officer may not deny entry to property or ask a person to leave a property under subsection (a)(7) unless there is reasonable suspicion that criminal activity has occurred or is occurring.
(d) A person described in subsection (a)(7) violates subsection (a)(7) unless the person has the written permission of the owner, owner's agent, enforcement authority, or court to come onto the property for purposes of performing maintenance, repair, or demolition.
(e) A person described in subsection (a)(8) violates subsection (a)(8) unless the court that issued the order denying the person entry grants permission for the person to come onto the property.
(f) Subsections (a), (b), and (e) do not apply to the following:
(1) A passenger on a train.
(2) An employee of a railroad carrier while engaged in the performance of official duties.
(3) A law enforcement officer, firefighter, or emergency response personnel while engaged in the performance of official duties.
(4) A person going on railroad property in an emergency to rescue a person or animal from harm's way or to remove an object that the person reasonably believes poses an imminent threat to life or limb.
(5) A person on the station grounds or in the depot of a railroad carrier:
(A) as a passenger; or
(B) for the purpose of transacting lawful business.
(6) A:
(A) person; or
(B) person's:
(i) family member;
(ii) invitee;
(iii) employee;
(iv) agent; or
(v) independent contractor;
going on a railroad's right-of-way for the purpose of crossing at a private crossing site approved by the railroad carrier to obtain access to land that the person owns, leases, or operates.
(7) A person having written permission from the railroad carrier to go on specified railroad property.
(8) A representative of the Indiana department of transportation while engaged in the performance of official duties.
(9) A representative of the federal Railroad Administration while engaged in the performance of official duties.
(10) A representative of the National Transportation Safety Board while engaged in the performance of official duties.
As added by Acts 1976, P.L.148, SEC.3. Amended by Acts 1977, P.L.340, SEC.43; P.L.151-1989, SEC.12; P.L.242-1993, SEC.2; P.L.164-1993, SEC.11; P.L.1-1994, SEC.168; P.L.259-1999, SEC.3; P.L.158-2009, SEC.7; P.L.88-2009, SEC.4.

 

[Expat]

Last time we ate at Upchucky cheese, the wife and I both got the diarrhea.