Purchasing a firearm for a member of your immediate family to give as a gift is not a "STRAW" purchase. I have clearly stated to the owners of several shops that I am purchasing a firearm for my 2 sons and Wife on several occasions never had a problem!
Was just down at Bradis purchasing Ammo for NFA Day. And A similar situation occurred. And What I heard them say is that ATF allows you to purchase a firearm as a gift for your Immediate Family. That basically means spouse, son or daughter, living in the same house. I also think you could buy for a grandchild. But brother or sister, cousin probably not, Because It was explained to me one time that the person has to be a "Direct descendant" to be covered by the rule.
The fact that the first attempt did not have the documentation needed means that the person attempting the purchase could NOT "at that time" buy. Immediately sending person #2 to attempt the purchase is "purchasing for someone who could NOT buy". (Even though his situation may be temporary).I would understand completing the app and getting a rejection, then not allowing her to do so, but I was not denied, just didn't have the proper credintials.
I seem something like that happen but in this case the DL was expire and the husband wanted his wife to do the paperwork and the owner of the shop did not let them.
It is if the person can NOT buy for themselves...and at that time, he could not.Purchasing a firearm for a member of your immediate family to give as a gift is not a "STRAW" purchase.
As stated upthread, you can buy for any proper person as a gift...but if an attempt was made and could not follow through, that person could not at that time buy.I heard that too from a gun dealer, that buying a gun for a spouse is legal.
There ya have it ^.So by the OP not having a a valid government ID without the proper address listed he is now a "prohibited person" and if his wife completed the sale it would have been a straw purchase.
Thus, the sale must be cancelled. His wife in turn cannot fill out the paperwork for him. That IS a straw sale.
If you have a vehicle registration with the new address, that will work.
+1 To MC Sports again for following the rules. I was a bit whinny about the situation, but all is under control now.
Your sister is not YOUR direct descendant, And really what some one else said is true If you purchase a gun and want to give it to the first stranger you see on the street you should be able to. Like many Federal rules and regs they can be murky. I mean what's the difference between giving some one else a gun 1 minute after you buy it. Or thirty days later? Would one be a straw purchase and the other not simply because it's 30 days later? I think much depends on what you say or don't say in front of the person in the shop you are buying the gun from. I'm not to worried about it Cause I'll probably never buy a gun for some one else anyway. But i's and interesting topic to discuss none the less!How the hell is my sister not a direct family member?
Just wondering why you couldn't go back in the next day and fill out the paperwork with the address thats on the license?
You are correct, however you are also incorrect. The husband couldn't fill out the paperwork properly with legal form (correct) ID. Thus, the sale must be cancelled. His wife in turn cannot fill out the paperwork for him. That IS a straw sale.
You can purchase a firearm for ANYONE. You could buy me one if you wanted to. But, where the sticky situation is, is if I wasn't LEGALLY allowed to purchase, or got delayed, etc. then you couldn't buy it for me.
In deference to JetGirl, it's also a crime.Just wondering why you couldn't go back in the next day and fill out the paperwork with the address thats on the license?