Glock 19 Fail

[nsheepdog]

My first shot with my new Gen 4 Glock 19 (not first time shooting a Glock) was a stovepipe. Then 2 out of every 10 ejected shells hit my face for the duration of 200 rounds.

I also noticed the two test fire casings in the box were steel casings. Is that strange??? Also, one of them was slightly pinched.

 

[NIFT]

Call Glock at 1-877-745-8523, and you will be sent, at no charge, a new Recoil Spring Assembly (RSA) that only requires a field strip to install.

Details here:
Recoil Spring Exchange Program | GLOCK USA

Hope this helps!

 

[pirate]

Then 2 out of every 10 ejected shells hit my face for the duration of 200 rounds.

Sounds like limp wristing?

Call Glock at 1-877-745-8523, and you will be sent, at no charge, a new Recoil Spring Assembly (RSA) that only requires a field strip to install.

Details here:
Recoil Spring Exchange Program | GLOCK USA

Hope this helps!

Great advice for him. +1

 

[nsheepdog]

Thank you. I think I have the updated, 0-4-3 spring assembly. I believe there is an updated extractor, which I suspect is the problem.

Darn, I even bought a Glock Perfection hat. It's going on the shelf, till this is resolved - in the trash, if the problem isn't fixed.

 

[Sylvain]

There is no such a thing as a "Glock fail"!
As for the shells that hit your face, your face is just not at the right place.
The problem comes from your face and not the gun.
If you hold it side ways you should be able to dodge the shells better.

Or it could be the spring ...

 

[Wild Deuce]

Quick fix ... loosen your grip ... remove GLOCK ... insert 1911.


Relax ... I have a GLOCK 19 on my hip at this very second (and another one in the safe).

 

[NIFT]

Thank you. I think I have the updated, 0-4-3 spring assembly. I believe there is an updated extractor, which I suspect is the problem.

Darn, I even bought a Glock Perfection hat. It's going on the shelf, till this is resolved - in the trash, if the problem isn't fixed.

I can assure you, if the problem is the gun, Glock will make it good. The acronym SAMM is a good one when trouble shooting problems:

S: Shooter (start here)
A: Ammunition (second)
M: Maintenance (third)
M: Mechanical (final check)

 

[Sylvain]

Quick fix ... loosen your grip ... remove GLOCK ... insert 1911.

Because that way the shells are not going to be ejected at all and it wont hit his face?

Good thinking!

 

[bobzilla]

Because that way the shells are not going to be ejected at all and it wont hit his face?

Good thinking!

No need to eject, it's a .45 and you only need one round to do anything. Duh! You're new here aren't you?

 

[nsheepdog]

Brilliant! Yeah, I had no problems with the Glock 26, or any other pistol for that matter. Certainly not a limp-wristing problem. My cousin, a more experienced shooter than I, had the same problems.

I asked the guy at the counter at the range, if he'd heard of any problems with the Glock 19, Gen 4. He said, "Absolutely not," and said I was "limp-wristing." I shook my head and walked away.

I will contact Glock.

Quick fix ... loosen your grip ... remove GLOCK ... insert 1911.


Relax ... I have a GLOCK 19 on my hip at this very second (and another one in the safe).

 

[nsheepdog]

Good advice!
S: Shooter (start here) I squeezed the gun as tight and steady as possible.
A: Ammunition (second) Both Federal and Winchester "white box" from Wal-Mart that has worked fine in all my other shooting.
M: Maintenance (third) Brand new gun from factory
M: Mechanical (final check) ???

I can assure you, if the problem is the gun, Glock will make it good. The acronym SAMM is a good one when trouble shooting problems:

S: Shooter (start here)
A: Ammunition (second)
M: Maintenance (third)
M: Mechanical (final check)

 

[nsheepdog]

What about the steel casings from the factory test fire? Is that normal?

 

[Sylvain]

No need to eject, it's a .45 and you only need one round to do anything. Duh! You're new here aren't you?

Dont miss your first shot then, because with 1911s you pretty much have to do a New York reload everytime you shoot to keep shooting.

 

[Wild Deuce]

I can assure you, if the problem is the gun, Glock will make it good. The acronym SAMM is a good one when trouble shooting problems:

S: Shooter (start here)
A: Ammunition (second)
M: Maintenance (third)
M: Mechanical (final check)

On a serious note ... this is very good advice. I've always taken the "start simple before moving to the complex" when analyzing a problem. Sometimes, simple means "less expensive." Also, only change one variable at a time.

From what I keep hearing, I'm not sure I would get anything but a Gen 3.

 

[Sylvain]

What about the steel casings from the factory test fire? Is that normal?

You mean the two casings that came with the gun?
I dont see anything wrong with it, I think they use WOLF ammo because it's the cheapest, that's the only reason they use steel casings.
A Glock should have no problem shooting brass or steel.

 

[Wild Deuce]

Dont miss your first shot then, because with 1911s you pretty much have to do a New York reload everytime you shoot to keep shooting.

What? What? I can't hear you over my 1911's shooting and the OP's tap-rack-banging.

 

[Sylvain]

From what I keep hearing, I'm not sure I would get anything but a Gen 3.

I agree with that.
The Gen4 is a totally new design since they changed that spring.
For me only the Gen3 is a proven design, it will take a few years to see if the new design is as good as the old one.

 

[esrice]

Glock Fail =

 

[Wild Deuce]

I just realized the OP had ONE stovepipe on the inaugural shot followed by 199 rounds firing ok (just getting hit in the head with the spent casings). I wouldn't sweat it yet. Chalk it up to a new gun and see what happens at the next range session. You said you have the updated/replacement spring from GLOCK already installed?

 

[nsheepdog]

OK, I thought that might be the case, but wasn't sure because my first new Glock had brass. Makes sense.

You mean the two casings that came with the gun?
I dont see anything wrong with it, I think they use WOLF ammo because it's the cheapest, that's the only reason they use steel casings.
A Glock should have no problem shooting brass or steel.