Glock 19 Fail

[Shay]

Glock Fail =

Hey now.

Just because you THINK you have a hot new girlfriend doesn't mean you can badmouth your ex.

 

[esrice]

Just because you THINK you have a hot new girlfriend doesn't mean you can badmouth your ex.

Is it bad that when I first saw the post title my initial reaction was "I must get in there and prove him WRONG!!"

 

[nsheepdog]

Yes, the updated spring is installed, but I'm pretty sure there is a newer extractor. I'll call Glock and find out, then update this thread to let you all know.
You 1911'ers, you might be on to something...

I just realized the OP had ONE stovepipe on the inaugural shot followed by 199 rounds firing ok (just getting hit in the head with the spent casings). I wouldn't sweat it yet. Chalk it up to a new gun and see what happens at the next range session. You said you have the updated/replacement spring from GLOCK already installed?

 

[Wild Deuce]

Would like to hear the end result. I haven't heard of a newer/different extractor.

I dislike GLOCKs (look and feel) but I can't deny the obvious that they run like champs out of the box. The only trouble I had with a GLOCK was traced back to my shooting style and an aftermarket part. I carry the GLOCK 19 because of a perfect balance of capacity, concealability, relaibility, and I shoot it well (even though I don't like it).

I love my 1911's and they run like champs. Then again, I spent money to make them that way. I will carry a 1911 when capacity isn't an issue.

Just understand, both platforms are man made machines and can fail. (Some 1911 guys might argue for divine inspiration of the 1911.)

 

[Bang-bang]

Glock 36, & 1911 gota have the best of BOTH worlds. IMO

 

[WebSnyper]

What about the steel casings from the factory test fire? Is that normal?

Were they steel or nickel plated brass? Some ammo comes with plated brass for better function.

As far as function concern with the brass ejecting in your face, if you already have the new spring assembly, you might want to PM Shooter521 or let him take a look down at Bradis some time. He is a Glock armorer and all around good guy.

This happened with both WWB and Federal ammo?

 

[iChokePeople]

Pfft.. You're complaining? It's a miracle that you still have a hand. Most glocks just kaboom, so the whole ejection process has never really been a priority.

 

[bud1976]

sounds like a mechanicla problem. I never had one of these from a 1911.

 

[NIFT]

Would like to hear the end result. I haven't heard of a newer/different extractor.

I dislike GLOCKs (look and feel) but I can't deny the obvious that they run like champs out of the box. The only trouble I had with a GLOCK was traced back to my shooting style and an aftermarket part. I carry the GLOCK 19 because of a perfect balance of capacity, concealability, relaibility, and I shoot it well (even though I don't like it).

I love my 1911's and they run like champs. Then again, I spent money to make them that way. I will carry a 1911 when capacity isn't an issue.

Just understand, both platforms are man made machines and can fail. (Some 1911 guys might argue for divine inspiration of the 1911.)

Excellent!
I just finished another Glock Armorer Class, and I do not recall mention of a new extractor on the Gen 4 models. Perhaps, I missed something.

Glock did change extractors a number of years ago from a square edged version to a 15 degree model.

Bottom line: call Glock and explain the problem. The folks there will make it right. Customer service is superb (most gun makers' are.)

 

[ssgjason]

OP there may be several issues with the Gen 4...Springs, extractors and maybe even the ejector

Glock Extractor Issues Gen 4 - Gen 3 - M4Carbine.net Forums

 

[Txlur]

Sell it. Buy a Gen2 or EARLY Gen3. Replace springs. Save money on phone calls.

My new Gen3 G19 was spitting so much brass in my face it was ridiculous. Any fail, and the gun gets sold. I bought one with a serial number in the 1990's (reference this glock talk thread), and voila - no more brass in the face and erratic ejection.

 

[Roadie]

If you are going to throw it in the trash, might I suggest donating it to a worthy cause (cough*Roadie*cough) and writing it off on your taxes?

 

[thoroughbred]

Sounds like you need a.... (cue the creepy music) xdm!!!

 

[686 Shooter]

Ever consider a S&W M&P9?

 

[tbhausen]

I had a Gen4 17 that was a stovepipe machine out of the box. Got the new spring and it ran better (though not perfectly). Traded it and eventually got a Gen3 19... 100% so far (120 rounds).

 

[45-70]

Then 2 out of every 10 ejected shells hit my face for the duration of 200 rounds.

Nothing wrong with the gun, it's the optional Gangsta model designed to be held sideways when fired. No more shell casings to the noggin, it's all good.

 

[HICKMAN]

You 1911'ers, you might be on to something...

until you have to spend a ton of $ finding mags that work 100% in your 1911... been there, done that.

 

[HICKMAN]

Ever consider a S&W M&P9?

because they don't have extractor issues of their own?

 

[HICKMAN]

sounds like a mechanicla problem. I never had one of these from a 1911.

you must not shoot it much.... see them in USPSA matches all the time...

 

[gglass]

Other than the well known spring issue recall with the 9mm Gen4 Glocks, there is also a lesser known issue with the ejector, which has now been redesigned by Glock. Your best bet is to call Glock and have them replace the ejector with the new curved ejector.

Recent discussion on GlockTalk Forum:
Best way to sweet talk Glock CS - Glock Talk

Video of the new Ejector:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...1JivAg&usg=AFQjCNHRICqhQzY5TxzJ9xrAjXEPwyz9yw