Heavily-armed citizen militia group plans to patrol smuggling corridor

[gunman]

Just be prepared when those people you are looking for are either themselves better armed, or the police/army escorting them are better armed, than you were prepared for.

So, if you go down in Molle and slung up with your FAL, be ready for the two following situations:

A) Destitute family with small children who are dehydrated and not going back.
B) Armed gang, or group with army support, that bear down on you with a HUMMV and a M2.

Shoot in (A) and you are a murderer, shoot in (B) and you are likely dead - frankly if you do not shoot in (B) you are likely worse off than dead.

I understand the desire, and pull to try and fill in where our government has failed us. But at the same time, you had better spend some real serious time playing out all the variations of how bad the border is and how you can actually help the situation.

I dunno. But anyone doing this needs to thing REAL HARD first.

very good point
A. form line and walk forward, pushing them back across..grown up version of red rover?
B and an all around good idea..dependable sharp shooters 500 yards behind, not fail safe, but better than sorry

 

[NordicHeathenVinlander]

Just be prepared when those people you are looking for are either themselves better armed, or the police/army escorting them are better armed, than you were prepared for.

So, if you go down in Molle and slung up with your FAL, be ready for the two following situations:

A) Destitute family with small children who are dehydrated and not going back.
B) Armed gang, or group with army support, that bear down on you with a HUMMV and a M2.

Shoot in (A) and you are a murderer, shoot in (B) and you are likely dead - frankly if you do not shoot in (B) you are likely worse off than dead.

I understand the desire, and pull to try and fill in where our government has failed us. But at the same time, you had better spend some real serious time playing out all the variations of how bad the border is and how you can actually help the situation.

I dunno. But anyone doing this needs to thing REAL HARD first.

Brother, we can expect as you said. But hopefully our foes will be arrogant and believe that Americans will tolerate they're invasion, murder and rape of Americans.

They can be better armed, but will they be better trained? Will they have the prowess to actually win a war, yet?


My vote is this, E5Ranger goes down there, and single handedly secures America, through his superior training in the matters of warfare.

 

[IndyMonkey]

Very Well said. I wonder how many are just "Keyboard Commandos"? It is so easy to talk about getting into shooting fight or hunting down the thuds, etc. Different story when the target is firing back at you. Mostly likely, these people have killed before and are experienced in real fights versus shooting some steel plates or paper targets.

I think you would be surprised how many internet commandos are past military.

 

[Colt556]

techres, in either A or B scenarios you will likely have an international incident.

If the militia group is large enough and takes on a military escorted drug running group then there will likely be dead people on both sides and potentially a big international incident as dead Mexican army regulars shot on our soil breaking the drug laws and the border laws would like enrage the public AND even the media would likely make a big deal out of it.

Maybe that is what needs to happen to force our Muslim President to take action. If something as big as this were to take place there is no way he could BS his way out of it. I do think that the Mexican escorts have killed, it's a way of life, er death, down there now, and would not hesitate to kill Americans on sight. They know nothing will happen to them. It's a very sad situation all the way around. I went to Steak n Shake for lunch today and every employee there was a Hispanic, except the manager and asst manager. I caught myself wondering if they were all legal. I'd never thought that way before.

 

[singlesix]

I think you would be surprised how many internet commandos are past military.

No doubt. But you going to put your life on the line with a bunch of wannbees?

Kinda reminders me of my college days: ROTC .. all **** and vinegar about combat until I saw it for real.

 

[Benny]

We will use lawful, deadly force where appropriate.

When will that be appropriate? I haven't a clue as to what border laws entail, but if they saw someone, wouldn't they have to call the authorities? What exactly are they allowed to do?

 

[NordicHeathenVinlander]

I went to Steak n Shake for lunch today and every employee there was a Hispanic, except the manager and asst manager. I caught myself wondering if they were all legal. I'd never thought that way before.

Sounds like the one off of Keystone

 

[Liberty Sanders]

There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter.

Ernest Hemingway

 

[Woodsman]

It would be pretty hard for a illegal drug runner to testify against anyone seeing as dead men dont talk nor tell no lies!

Which is where two border agents went wrong. They shot the guy in the butt and he came back and testified against them. He's free and the agents are in prison.

 

[peloe16]

i dont understand why the government is getting mad about citizens of the United States of America using lawful force to protect our own ground against ILLEGALS who have NO rights when they enter this country???? if i lived anywhere near there i would be doing the same thing. no one could tell me i couldnt protect my land against drug smugglers and human traffic-ers (spelling).

 

[theweakerbrother]

i dont understand why the government is getting mad about citizens of the United States of America using lawful force to protect our own ground against ILLEGALS who have NO rights when they enter this country???? if i lived anywhere near there i would be doing the same thing. no one could tell me i couldnt protect my land against drug smugglers and human traffic-ers (spelling).

Because if your are helping to win the war on drugs (you can't), then Uncle Sugar doesn't get to spend as much money as he did the previous years because we 'need' more 'tools to fight narcoterrorism.' Whatever that is!

The war on drugs is a lost cause. Legalize it, have BigPharma make it and there is no reason to have cops getting shot at the border over drug wars.

 

[gunman]

maybe they're mad because we're throwing sticks in their spokes? different regime, i suspect the same agenda. perhaps its bs but i see nothing in the govt to discourage it from being true

President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada
What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada
the Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity. We propose a community based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders that "our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary." Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly and safe. Its goal will be to guarantee a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America.

Not to worry, President Bush reassured President Fox. The National Guard on the border were only temporary, meant to last only as long until the public forgets about the issue, as has always been the case in the past.
North American Union to Replace the USA? - HUMAN EVENTS

 

[flagtag]

What the heck?! A bunch of guys, camping out, enjoying each other's company, target shooting, whatever - they have that right.

If attacked, those same guys DO have a right to self defense - to the extent to the actions (threat) used against them. If that means shooting back, so be it.

And we all know - the Supreme Court of the US has determined that the law (enforcement officers) "don't have a duty to protect the citizens of the US" - SO........... we (or they in AZ) can't depend on the law to protect (us) them, they (camping guys) have not only the RIGHT, but the DUTY to defend themselves and others in their camp. (and other LEGAL citizens of the US)

 

[Bigum1969]

When will that be appropriate? I haven't a clue as to what border laws entail, but if they saw someone, wouldn't they have to call the authorities? What exactly are they allowed to do?

I wonder this as well...

 

[WWIIIDefender]

Well now the Obama administration will probably send in the national guard, but it won't be to stop illegal immigration it will be to stop the evil racist militias. Watch and see.

 

[ATOMonkey]

Those aren't heavy weapons, those are small arms.

Journalists and their irresponsible reporting...

 

[4sarge]

maybe they're mad because we're throwing sticks in their spokes? different regime, i suspect the same agenda. perhaps its bs but i see nothing in the govt to discourage it from being true

President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada
What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada
the Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity. We propose a community based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders that "our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary." Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly and safe. Its goal will be to guarantee a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America.

Not to worry, President Bush reassured President Fox. The National Guard on the border were only temporary, meant to last only as long until the public forgets about the issue, as has always been the case in the past.
North American Union to Replace the USA? - HUMAN EVENTS

Damn, I thought Obama was President. Didn't YOU Vote for CHANGE

 

[gunman]

sure did.. he had me really convinced. guess i should've read the fine print "campaign propoganda is enlarged to manipulate voters. change by our definition only constitutes a change of face; policies of public betrayal, corporate a$$kissing and utilization of rules of engagemant to consistantly put our military at a disadvantage will remain the same"

 

[NordicHeathenVinlander]

Ready's Rangers, are what this group is being called.


He's asking for man, serviced, patriots; Supplies.

The Statement.

We can use everything you send. This is all out of pocket and voluntary. I have spent thousands of my own dollars in gear as anyone aquainted with me can attest. We all risk our lives. The more we have, the more we can do. I would eventually like to fund a whole plattoon, full-time, against the Narco-Terrorists. This will take a group effort, however. But we will take it Direct Action against the enemy and kill them (lawfully).

Priorities:

Check or Money Orders or Gift Cards (can be used for all things and saves on postage and logistics)

Gas Cards (we use tank fulls patrolling the trails)

Thermal or Night Vision equipment

Communications Gear to include wire field phones (even non-secure types like walkie-talkies)

Military-style long arms (I can place them in my name if folks do not want them registered)

Ammo, boxes or cases (.223, .308, 12 Guage, .50 BMG, 9mm, .40 Cal, .45)

Body armor and helmets (yes, the bad guys do shoot back)

Firearm accessories (Everything AR-15 mags, stocks, handguards, lights, pop-up sights, night sights upper recievers, etc. Red Dot scopes, Beretta mags, Glock mags, slings, etc.) And chest rigs for ammo magazine carriage

Glow Sticks, smoke grenades, flares, CS/CN, pepper spray, flex cuffs (a lot)

Batteries (mainly D-cell and 123A camera style, AA, AAA)

MRE's or non-perishable Camping food packets

Rechargable, water proof, battery powered lanterns (Wal-mart has them in the sporting goods section)

Water (as much as possible) and First Aid trauma packs. Like Stop Clot for gunshot wounds.

Desert camo fatigues, Carmex lip balm (***chapstick melts in this extreme heat***) bandanas, ice coolers, face paint, balaclavas, bug repellant (100% DEET and Avon Skin-So-Soft), T.P., hygiene supplies, ziplock bags, note pads, canteens, water jugs, dust goggles, instant coffee, energy drinks, etc.

Camo netting and Sandbags, fortification supplies for manned bunkers including work gloves

ANYTHING YOU THINK OF. THIS IS A WAR AGAINST THE MOST POWERFUL CARTELS IN THE WORLD.

PLEASE FORWARD TO EVERYONE. EVEN ARMY NAVY STORES, VETS GROUPS, HUNTING CLUBS, SHOOTING CLUBS, FORUMS, BLOGS, ETC.

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!!!!

P.S. topographical maps and satelite print outs of the Vekol Valley region from I-8 south to the border are greatly appreciated. Pilots with aircraft or drones welcome to aid with V.A.R.s (Visual Arial Recon)

send to:

Ready's Rangers HQ
P.O. Box 571
Mesa, AZ 85211-0571

(480) 255-5266
eaglesnest_usa@hotmail.com

They already made contact from what I've seen, live-captured one illegal.

And have Youtube videos... I would post just to show what is actually going on, what the Communist media isnt reporting... But I'd rather not, if you want to see, ask or research yourself.

Amazing stuff, and if you want in, just start truckin'

 

[NordicHeathenVinlander]

Correction******


One dead, 3 captured

The one who is dead, died of the elements. I hope they post his body high up, and let it be a warning