How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence

[IndyGunner]

Lol $31 dollars. Mids is 20-25 an 8th chron is 50-60 an 8th. Never ever heard of someone taxing an extra $1, let alone charging 30. Not that I would know. I just lol when news companies try and inflate drug bust value or street value... especially by a dollar.

 

[PatriotPride]

Keep that attitude!!
You'll go far in the Internet Savior Community.

Stop with the insults. Either post something of substance, or keep your sarcastic comments to yourself. The above quoted post is just one of many---in just this thread.

 

[UncleMike]

Stop with the insults. Either post something of substance, or keep your sarcastic comments to yourself. The above quoted post is just one of many---in just this thread.

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[misconfig]

This is not a war on drugs, it's a war on personal freedom.

 

[lashicoN]

Just the ones that are unconstitutional and based on irrational fears and phony science. And the ones that violate our right to property, privacy, liberty, pursuit of happiness, etc...

He's not in favor of more liberty!
He said NOTHING about upholding The Constitution!!
That is the that you interjected into his writings.
What he said was, that it costs a lot of money to house Criminals.
He's right!
OK!
Either pay it, or pick an alternative.

Maybe you and I were talking about different posts. He clearly talks about upholding the Constitution and clearly wishes to end the violation of liberty. Rambone and I don't share an INGO account. He very clearly typed those two things all on his own, see above for reference, please!

Uh oh, you made some errors yourself. Lay off that pipe, chief.

Oh, I make plenty-o typos myself. Without the spell check, I would be in some serious trouble.

 

[IndyGunner]

How about everyone just chillax and watch this...

The Union - The Business Behind Getting High | Watch Free Documentary Online

everyone is so up tight... you know what would fix that...

 

[Cherryspringer]

There are so many fellow Americans that have suffered similar circumstances because of this ridiculous law. This is an herb that created by nature. It should not be classified with illegal drugs. Thank you FDR. It was criminalized with several other controlled substances under his rule. He told the american people "negros on the marijuana can't be stopped by police bullets". Don't believe everything our leaders tell us. At one time they said the world was flat. Legalization would go a long way toasted relieving our nations financial shortfalls and take revenue away from criminal drug dealers. I'm sure revenue from Latin drug cartels still finds it's way back to the states to make sure it remains illegal and honest Americans can't farm this product.

 

[IndyGunner]

This is an herb that created by nature. It should not be classified with illegal drugs.

Speaking of that... did you know pot is a class 1 drug and cocaine is a class 3.... makes perfect sense.

 

[Fargo]

Speaking of that... did you know pot is a class 1 drug and cocaine is a class 3.... makes perfect sense.

No I didn't know that, because its not the case.

Do you even understand what the different drug classification schedules mean? Have you ever read them?

I'm guessing not since Cocaine is not schedule III under Indiana or the Federal classifications.

THC is schedule I and Cocaine is schedule II.

Possession of Cocaine is also a baseline felony in Indiana while Marijuana is a baseline misdemeanor which is eligible for conditional discharge or diversion.


Joe

 

[IndyGunner]

Do you even understand what the different drug schedules mean?

The DEA defines Schedule 1s as:
(A) The drug or other substance has high potential for abuse.
(B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
(C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.



Their definition of a schedule 1 drug makes me lol at how not schedule 1 pot is.

A. Anything can be abused. By that term they should ban every gun you own, the cars you own, the amount of mcdonolds burgers you eat, etc. If they mean ADDICTIVE, pot has been proven to be only mentally addictive meaning that you WANT it, not physically NEED it. Believe me, plenty of my close friends have gone the way of heroin oxys and other kinds of ****ed up drugs. Pot is not similar to these in any way.

B. Do I really need to elaborate on this one...

C. This goes with B. Maybe if the gov got their head out of their azzes and regulated it like alcohol (kills more people every year) or cigs (kills more people every year) they wouldnt have a regulation problem. (I am NOT for regulation, just saying) Not only that, but we are spending 14.2 billion a year imprisoning millions on nonviolent drug offenders. We could also MAKE an estimated 14.2 billion a year on the taxation of the sale of marijuana. But our gov only likes to spend money, not make it.

THC is schedule I and Cocaine is schedule II.

oops im sorry I meant 2 for coke, doesnt change my previous statement at all...

Anymore sarcastic questions youd like to ask?

 

[Fargo]

oops im sorry I meant 2 for coke, doesnt change my previous statement at all...

Anymore sarcastic questions youd like to ask?

No sarcastic questions at all and yes it does change your previous statements. There is a significant difference between schedule II and schedule III, especially as relates to per se operating a vehicle offenses in Indiana.

Additionally, being in a higher schedule does NOT automatically equal being more illegal. Simple possession of schedule I pot is a misdemeanor while simple possession of schedule II cocaine is a felony.

Your little "did you know" doesn't work on multiple levels.

As I've said before, there are rational and fairly convincing arguments for decriminalizing simple possession of marijuana. Unfortunately this thread is severely lacking in those and instead seems to be heavy on supporting taking your kids with when your dealing and false analogies from the schedules.

Joe

 

[IndyGunner]

So if you would care to share, WHY is pot a schedule 1 with a lesser punishment than coke which is a schedule 2 and a felony? Why and what made it this way?



...and I have no kids.

 

[Fargo]

So if you would care to share, WHY is pot a schedule 1 with a lesser punishment than coke which is a schedule 2 and a felony? Why and what made it this way?



...and I have no kids.

I dunno, my guess is in part because the feddies in the DEA want pot to remain Schedule I to try to keep the medical marijuana movement from getting traction at the state level. In second part because Coke and its derivative's have more commonly acceptable medical variants than THC at present.

Not saying it should be so, but it is.

None of that changes that the Schedules are classifications, not what makes something illegal. Statutes outside the schedules do that and as pointed out often in reverse of the classifications.

Your analogy is false because legality is not contingent on schedule except in certain specific statutes like operating a vehicle under the influence of a schedule X substance.

Hell, schedule III you first claimed Cocaine is in is almost all prescription drugs as is schedule IV. Even a good bit of schedule II is prescription, like codeine or meperidine.

Joe

 

[nate1865]

Well, the system is broken if you consider the amount of people that break them.

I disagree with the premise that the rightness of a law is determined by how many people follow it.

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

I disagree with the premise that the rightness of a law is determined by how many people follow it.

If it were a small portion of the population, I would likely agree. We will never deter everyone from committing crime, even if the only laws we had were against serious violent offenses, such as murder.

For offenses such as traffic infractions, I would also agree that the shoe would not fit - because the majority of people that speed agree with the idea that we must regulate the speed limit, even though they speed.

However, when a large portion of the population not only breaks the law, but believe the law serves no moral purpose - I would have to agree with my original statement. A law that does not reflect the morals of an overwhelming majority of a population - should not be a law.

 

[theweakerbrother]

Indiana has tax stamps available for sale for those who deal in Marijuana:


Indiana State Tax Stamp
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Indiana

Stamp

State Code § 6-7-3-8

Tax Rate $3.50/gram

Penalty for Nonpayment (Civil and Criminal ) 200% of Tax

Additional Information
Tax found to violate double jeopardy protections in Fassinger v. State, 656 N.E.2d 1163. As a result, tax stamp violations must be processed separately from criminal proceedings.

The lack of due process and the Department of Revenue’s levying of the tax for constructive possession alone were challenged unsuccessfully in Hurst v. Department of Revenue, 720 N.E.2d 370 (Ind. Tax. 1999) and Hall v. Department of Revenue, 720 N.E.2d 1287 (Ind. Tax 1999).

For more information, call the Department of Revenue’s Criminal Investigations Division at (317)232-336

 

[hornadylnl]

Where does medicinal coke fit in this? I had and ENT doctor shoot it up my nose to put a scope about the size of a pencil up my nose. I guess I lied earlier. I have done medicinal coke only because a doctor shot it up there. Other than numbing my nose, I didn't feel any affects from it. Does it not make you high like regular coke?

 

[public servant]

Where does medicinal coke fit in this? I had and ENT doctor shoot it up my nose to put a scope about the size of a pencil up my nose. I guess I lied earlier. I have done medicinal coke only because a doctor shot it up there. Other than numbing my nose, I didn't feel any affects from it. Does it not make you high like regular coke?

Unless he sold it to you in his living room with his kids around...it doesn't fit into this.

DocToor: Medical use for cocaine?

Not sure how much of this is true or not.

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

Where does medicinal coke fit in this? I had and ENT doctor shoot it up my nose to put a scope about the size of a pencil up my nose. I guess I lied earlier. I have done medicinal coke only because a doctor shot it up there. Other than numbing my nose, I didn't feel any affects from it. Does it not make you high like regular coke?

Were *gasp* children allowed in that hospital?

Because if they were... that doctor was endangering them.

Cocaine being present endangers children, you know...

 

[hornadylnl]

Were *gasp* children allowed in that hospital?

Because if they were... that doctor was endangering them.

Cocaine being present endangers children, you know...

I was only about 15 at the time.