Utah and Florida Non-Resident Concealed Carry Permit

[Hiram Abiff]

Is this what we are looking for??
Utah Concealed Firearm Permit Class

 

[obijohn]

count me in. may be able to get some others.

 

[wolfman]

I have been looking at FL and UT permits too, and found that there appears to only be one, maybe two states difference in the two.
The IN + FL combo includes WV, but not WA or MN
The IN + UT combo includes WA and MN, but not WV
Otherwise it looks like rest of the states just one or the other adds to your IN license, is the same, and of course the IN + FL + UT, gives you all three, WV, WA, MN.

To me the key is the renewal cost, 100+ for FL , vers 10 for UT

DISCLAMER: Even though I used the information from more than one source, and was very carefull in my research, it is probably wrong, and should not be used for any reason other than to convince yourself that to be on the safe side, you just need to go ahead and get every non resident permit and/or license you can. :rolleyesedit:

wolfman

 

[minuteman32]

I have been looking at FL and UT permits too, and found that there appears to only be one, maybe two states difference in the two.
The IN + FL combo includes WV, but not WA or MN
The IN + UT combo includes WA and MN, but not WV
Otherwise it looks like rest of the states just one or the other adds to your IN license, is the same, and of course the IN + FL + UT, gives you all three, WV, WA, MN.

To me the key is the renewal cost, 100+ for FL , vers 10 for UT

DISCLAMER: Even though I used the information from more than one source, and was very carefull in my research, it is probably wrong, and should not be used for any reason other than to convince yourself that to be on the safe side, you just need to go ahead and get every non resident permit and/or license you can. :rolleyesedit:

wolfman

Be careful when comparing the states covered w/ each of the permits. I use handgunlaw.us, personally & recommend it highly. The main thing to be aware of is, which states recognize a "non-resident" permit. The last time I checked, to carry in the following states on an out of state license/permit, you must be a resident of the state that issued the license/permit that you are carrying on in that state; NH, SC, WV, MI, FL, KS & CO. Of those, NH, MI, FL & CO recognize the IN LTC. SC, WV & KS do not. So, even if one of them did recognize a license/permit issued from FL, or wherever, as an IN resident we still cannot carry there on the FL license.
I know it gets complicated, but they are laws put together by a bunch of politicians (most of whom are lawyers!).

I try to cover this in the class, too. Sometimes it is easier to absorb when you can hear it & see it together.

 

[wolfman]

Be careful when comparing the states covered w/ each of the permits. I use handgunlaw.us, personally & recommend it highly. The main thing to be aware of is, which states recognize a "non-resident" permit.

I used that site as one of my sources, and agree that recognition of a "non-resident" permit or license can be confusing, and the reason for my disclamer, but it still looks like the Utah is a better bang for your buck. Along with the tranining satisfying the requirements for the FL permit.

DISCLAMER: Even though I used the information from more than one source, and was very carefull in my research, it is probably wrong, and should not be used for any reason other than to convince yourself that to be on the safe side, you just need to go ahead and get every non resident permit and/or license you can. :rolleyesedit:

 

[Bill of Rights]

Be careful when comparing the states covered w/ each of the permits. I use handgunlaw.us, personally & recommend it highly. The main thing to be aware of is, which states recognize a "non-resident" permit. The last time I checked, to carry in the following states on an out of state license/permit, you must be a resident of the state that issued the license/permit that you are carrying on in that state; NH, SC, WV, MI, FL, KS & CO. Of those, NH, MI, FL & CO recognize the IN LTC. SC, WV & KS do not. So, even if one of them did recognize a license/permit issued from FL, or wherever, as an IN resident we still cannot carry there on the FL license.
I know it gets complicated, but they are laws put together by a bunch of politicians (most of whom are lawyers!).

I try to cover this in the class, too. Sometimes it is easier to absorb when you can hear it & see it together.

Exactly. As it stands now, there is no way anyone from IN can carry in WV, SC, or KS, since they require a resident LTC/CCW/whatever and do not recognize ours.

I just got a letter back from Dan and he suggested 7/19/08 for a class date. I didn't confirm that with him as yet, but told him I'd bring it back here and let everyone know. I also asked him again about where to do it, i.e. if he has a location that works for him better. If not, Evan, I'll let you know and see what we can do.

Thanks, everyone, for your interest!

Blessings,
B

 

[obijohn]

19 july can work for me. keep us posted, and thanks for your efforts.

 

[ryanmercer]

As it stands now, we can carry in AL, AK, AZ, AR, CO, FL, GA, ID, IN, KY, LA, MI, MS, MO, MT, NH, NC, ND, OK, PA, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT, and WY. The UT CCW adds DE, MN, NV, NM, OH, VA, and WA.



To my knowledge, it's a one-time class, with a $20 renewal every 5 years. If I find something official that contradicts that, I'll correct it. Correction: $10 renewal, every five years. One time class.



Do what works best for you. Me, I'd carry a copy of the relevant law with me and use the extra cash for either a new gun or more ammo. YMMV.



That would be very cool, Evan. We have perhaps ten now, depending on details. I'll drop Dan an email and see what he is available to do.

Blessings,
B

Know of any sites that actually link to states sites that have the law on the official states websites? That one website just says 'oh yeah you can use it there'

 

[ryanmercer]

Exactly. As it stands now, there is no way anyone from IN can carry in WV, SC, or KS, since they require a resident LTC/CCW/whatever and do not recognize ours.

I just got a letter back from Dan and he suggested 7/19/08 for a class date. I didn't confirm that with him as yet, but told him I'd bring it back here and let everyone know. I also asked him again about where to do it, i.e. if he has a location that works for him better. If not, Evan, I'll let you know and see what we can do.

Thanks, everyone, for your interest!

Blessings,
B

7.19 is good for me.

 

[hoosiertriangle]

I would be interested in the UT carry class, 19 Jul also works for me. Any idea on the cost per person for the class itself?

 

[Bill of Rights]

Know of any sites that actually link to states sites that have the law on the official states websites? That one website just says 'oh yeah you can use it there'

Ryan, I go every couple of months to each state's official page and check it out. CCW Concealed Carry Laws by State should have up to date info also.

I would be interested in the UT carry class, 19 Jul also works for me. Any idea on the cost per person for the class itself?

Check out the page above ref: Utah Concealed carry permit that (I think) Hiram Abiff posted.

If I recall, he said it's $150, but he does discounts for national organization memberships like NRA, GOA, JPFO, etc. There may be others, but I'll leave that to him to explain the day of the class. (That is, I'm not going to tell anyone that the cost is less than what he posts-if he wants to discount it, that's his place, not mine. )

Blessings,
B

 

[Big Country]

19th

Good for the 19th if there are openings.

 

[ryanmercer]

Ryan, I go every couple of months to each state's official page and check it out. CCW Concealed Carry Laws by State should have up to date info also.



Check out the page above ref: Utah Concealed carry permit that (I think) Hiram Abiff posted.

If I recall, he said it's $150, but he does discounts for national organization memberships like NRA, GOA, JPFO, etc. There may be others, but I'll leave that to him to explain the day of the class. (That is, I'm not going to tell anyone that the cost is less than what he posts-if he wants to discount it, that's his place, not mine. )

Blessings,
B

*nods*

 

[bwframe]

Ryan, I go every couple of months to each state's official page and check it out. CCW Concealed Carry Laws by State should have up to date info also.



Check out the page above ref: Utah Concealed carry permit that (I think) Hiram Abiff posted.

If I recall, he said it's $150, but he does discounts for national organization memberships like NRA, GOA, JPFO, etc. There may be others, but I'll leave that to him to explain the day of the class. (That is, I'm not going to tell anyone that the cost is less than what he posts-if he wants to discount it, that's his place, not mine. )

Blessings,
B

How much of a discount for these organization memberships?

What about proposing a discount for an all INGO member group also? Selling point being that promotion of their future business will take place by posts and, or reviews on this board.
Strength in numbers people. We should use it to our advantage.

 

[Cwood]

The 19th is good for me also

 

[minuteman32]

I usually offer a discount of $25 for membership in a pro gun organization.

I also bring copies of "Indiana Handgun Law" by Bryan Ciyou. Bryan sells them for $25 & that is what I sell them for, as well. I think they are a good reference to have & I don't make anything on them. Just FYI in case anyone wanted one.

 

[Bill of Rights]

OK folks, here's where we stand:

Fourteen people here have expressed clear interest and two or three others have posted on this but not clearly said they were interested. I have two others (at present) who aren't (to my knowledge) on INGO.
This means we will be doing a class.
Now the question is "where?" Evan has a hotel meeting room booked that will hold at most 25 people, but even with the hotel manager cutting him a deal, there's still some out-of-pocket expense that I'd like to avoid if we can. If not, he and I will cover the room cost.

In mid-July, for a four-hour, classroom-only class, I think our minimum requirements are that it be inside, have seating, and that it be air-conditioned.

Anyone know a place like that that would be available that day?

Blessings,
B

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

July 19th, huh?

Hmmm... The UT non-resident class is QUITE appealing! Especially considering that several of my future in-laws live in Ohio...

But, fortunately or unfortunately, I have plans that day.

You see, July 19th is when those future in-laws BECOME the in-laws.

Our weddin' isn't until 4:30, but even if the class were over at noon, I can guarantee that I'd be a "little" pre-occupied and not be able to pay attention. hehe

-J-

 

[Hiram Abiff]

The 19th works for me if you still have room!

 

[esrice]

If it helps anyone decide on a venue, the hotel is the Holiday Inn Express Hotel & Suites in Greenwood, Indiana. Its right next to I-65 off the County Line Road exit (#101). We're approximately 10 minutes south of downtown Indy.

Here's a crappy picture to show you what it looks like: