.22LR Range Fun

[700 LTR 223]

I didn't get a TC 22LR until a few months ago & haven't really put it to a head to head test with others yet myself.
I've never found the Ruger Mark series to be that accurate, just average, but a Mark 2 10" with a scope could change that, haha!

My 10" TC 22lr match has been the most accurate of all the 22lr handguns I have ever owned. At one time it had fired the most accurate 22lr target for me at 50 yards rifles included. My later rifles - VQ and Shilen barrel 10/22s , Sako P94S and CZ 452s have since then taken top honors.

The MKII series I have owned all have shot well including the 10" when I briefly had a more powerful pistol scope on it , maybe I can locate the target I shot , has been many years ago!

 

[DRob]

Wow the Kel Tec surprised me being on the list.
Thank you for putting this together.

I friend let me shoot her CP33 a while back. I stopped at Beech Grove on the way home and bought one. It has a good trigger and is amazingly accurate. It did have some "issues" right out of the box. The magazines were difficult to load but a KelTec loader and some internal smoothing fixed all that. It didn't feed very well so I honed the bottom of the chamber very slightly with a Dremel tapered stone to make a "feed ramp" of sorts and the gun is now 100% reliable. I haven't shot it from a rest so I am the variable in the equation. I've put a red dot on it and it may be the most fun-to-shoot handgun I've ever had.

 

[CombatShooter]

It was great getting back to my beloved 22LRs with 270 rounds.
Been sidetracked lately having too much fun with CZ 9mm pistols and a 22LR rifle.

Today:
- SW 41 (1980s) Didn't fire it much b/c I was getting light strikes half the time.
It probably just needs cleaning with the firing pin channel gunked up??
Oct. 2018, I had the firing pin and extractor replaced, but don't remember if the firing pin spring was replaced.
I've had it longer than any other gun, but since I bought the 2021 model, I plan to sell the 1980s model after I have my fun of having both.
I've got too many other older target guns presently.
- SW 41 (2021)
- Hi-Standard Victor Military (early/mid 70s)
- SW 2214 3" (422 variant, 1987 to 1996)
- Beretta Bobcat tip-up barrel
Note: Didn't have had the Colt Woodsman Match Target, Gen 3, 1973, with me b/c it's in Greenfield at Highsmith guns repairing the rear sight (windage screw broke).

SW 41/2021 shot well today.
Need to use the 1" rifle targets since 1.75" too easy.
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Was adjusting windage & elevation entire time.
Almost there.
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Hi-Standard Victor Military
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SW 2214 3" barrel.
15' 1st row
21' 2nd row
30' 3rd row
Note: Specs say this is an 8 rd gun, but, both magazines only took 7 rds.
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Bobcat .22LR, mislabeled Tomcat the target. (Bobcat is the .32 acp )
With fixed sights, POI is left & a little low.
I tried to use my KY windage skills to center rounds.
Note: 7 round magazines. 8 rds will fit in magazine, but magazine won't seat in frame.
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That bobcat is pretty accurate ! I had a Tomcat that I think I could've done better on the target throwing the pistol versus shooting it.

 

[700 LTR 223]

I've never found the Ruger Mark series to be that accurate, just average, but a Mark 2 10" with a scope could change that, haha!

Shot this way back in 2005 when I could look through a scope and everything was crystal clear. MKII 10" with Burris 7X IER. Still the best 50 yd group I ever fired with a repeating handgun. Might have to put a scope on it again!

 

[doddg]

That bobcat is pretty accurate ! I had a Tomcat that I think I could've done better on the target throwing the pistol versus shooting it.

I thought my Tomcat .32 acp was decently accurate for such a short barrel.
I loved my Tomcat, and kept it way beyond any usefulness, but at least I sold it to a friend, haha!

Found these pics.

 

[zachcz]

Picked up a fn 502 recently. One range trip in and it’s one of my favorites. Hoping to get some range time soon. Was cautious bc it’s made by umarex but quality seems solid. Anyone else have experience with them.

 

[doddg]

Two Ruger Chargers:
- 8" with a Holosun red dot (Can't see bullseye at 45')
- Wood 10" with a scope, but difficulty adjusting elevation, rotating freely???

Very pleased with the 8", but I need to put a scope on it so I can go out to 75' at the range.
I can barely see the bullseye at 30' with only a red dot, haha!

It was fun and with the scope not working well, the 8" did a little better today.

Used a rifle target with 7/8" outer circles & 7/16" inner circle.
Used Armscor 36 grain, hollow point.
5 rds each circle.

Counting all 5 rds in the smaller 7/16" circle:
- Wood 10" = 4 circles
- 8" = 6 circles

 

[zachcz]

Here are a few mag dumps with a new to me 502 from ten yards. Two inch circle. Very happy with the 502. It may just be my favorite polymer 22 now. If my math is right this is fifty rounds

 

[TJ Kackowski]

Here are a few mag dumps with a new to me 502 from ten yards. Two inch circle. Very happy with the 502. It may just be my favorite polymer 22 now. If my math is right this is fifty rounds

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At 50 rounds, that's only 96% ... to the classisfieds with this one!

 

[zachcz]

At 50 rounds, that's only 96% ... to the classisfieds with this one!

I know. It has to be the gun or ammo. Wasn’t my lack of proper trigger mechanics or misaligning the sights

 

[doddg]

Enjoyed range time with 3 of my favorites:
- SW 41 (1980s) with red dot
- SW 41 (2021) with a scope
- High Standard The Victor Military with iron sights

CCI SV at 1.75" circles.
Both SW 41 with optics at 30'.
High Standard The Victor Military with iron sights at 21'.
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High Standard The Victor Military


SW 41 (2021) left side w/scope.


SW 41 (2021) right side without scope


SW 41 (1980s) with a red dot.


SW 41 (1980s) left side w/o red dot.

 

[doddg]

Enjoyable day with 3 .22LR pistols: 2 with red dots & 1 with iron sights.

Row 1:
85%, Browning Buckmark Pro Target with Sig Sauer red dot @30'.
Surprised that the Buckmark got beat by the Ruger Mark 4 today!
Row 2:
100%, Ruger Mark 4 2245 with Bushnell red dot @30'.
Row 3 & 4:
95% & 90%, SW 2206 with iron sights @21', early 1990s.

Better triggers would tighten up the groups on each of these guns.
After shooting the SW 41 last range visit, the difference is really telling.
Maybe when I decide which guns are long term keepers, I'll indulge in smooth light triggers.

Ammo: Armscor 36 grain, HV, HP.
30' with red dots & 21' with iron sights.
1.75" circles.


Browning Buckmark Pro Target with Sig Sauer red dot.


Buckmark Pro Target with Sig Sauer red dot.


Ruger Mark 4 22/45 with Bushnell red dot.
Zack pointed out the front fiber optic is backwards, haha!
Guy I bought this from had upgraded this gun, but installed it backwards, haha!


Ruger Mark 4 22/45 with Bushnell red dot.


SW 2206 with iron sights (early 1990s).

 

[doddg]

A pleasure today with the Kel-Tec CP33 that I bought over a year ago from Zackcz.
At the time, I borrowed it from Zackcz just to try out and it shot so well, he let me buy it.

It met my "keeper" profile of 100% on 1.75" circles with no optic at 21' & with an optic at 30'.
If I had another EER handgun scope instead of a red dot on it, I think I could go out to 45'.
I found a pic shooting 45' getting 85%.

I put 80 rds through it today with no "fails" using Federal AutoMatch.
A little tough loading on the fingers.
Since I intend to keep this, I'll order loader for it.

I hadn't remembered that the trigger was so good.

Rows 1-3 at 30' with row 4 at 21'.
I had 1 cloverleaf (row 1, circle 3), which is rare for me.


3rd row, 45' at 85% (17/20 rds).

 

[zachcz]

A pleasure today with the Kel-Tec CP33 that I bought over a year ago from Zackcz.
At the time, I borrowed it from Zackcz just to try out and it shot so well, he let me buy it.

It met my "keeper" profile of 100% on 1.75" circles with no optic at 21' & with an optic at 30'.
If I had another EER handgun scope instead of a red dot on it, I think I could go out to 45'.
I found a pic shooting 45' getting 85%.

I put 80 rds through it today with no "fails" using Federal AutoMatch.
A little tough loading on the fingers.
Since I intend to keep this, I'll order loader for it.

I hadn't remembered that the trigger was so good.

Rows 1-3 at 30' with row 4 at 21'.
I had 1 cloverleaf (row 1, circle 3), which is rare for me.
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3rd row, 45' at 85% (17/20 rds).
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Glad you’ve moved to quality made modern firearms and not those unreliable antiques you’ve been shooting lately

 

[DadSmith]

A pleasure today with the Kel-Tec CP33 that I bought over a year ago from Zackcz.
At the time, I borrowed it from Zackcz just to try out and it shot so well, he let me buy it.

It met my "keeper" profile of 100% on 1.75" circles with no optic at 21' & with an optic at 30'.
If I had another EER handgun scope instead of a red dot on it, I think I could go out to 45'.
I found a pic shooting 45' getting 85%.

I put 80 rds through it today with no "fails" using Federal AutoMatch.
A little tough loading on the fingers.
Since I intend to keep this, I'll order loader for it.

I hadn't remembered that the trigger was so good.

Rows 1-3 at 30' with row 4 at 21'.
I had 1 cloverleaf (row 1, circle 3), which is rare for me.
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3rd row, 45' at 85% (17/20 rds).
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That CP33 is impressive.

 

[doddg]

That CP33 is impressive.

I thought so, as well.
I had no expectations for a Kel-Tec & had no desired to own one.
When it out-shot all the previous plastic wonders (I've tried them all), it was not expected.

 

[doddg]

Did one of my favorite things comparing similar guns at the range today.
Today was a Ruger 8" Charger vs a 10" charger, both with red dots.
I took the "See All Sight" off the 10" polymer & put a Sig Romeo MSR red dot on it for a like comparison with the 8" polymer with a Holosun red dot.

Nearly identical results shown below between the 8" & the 10" Chargers in accuracy either on the .75" circles at 30' or 1.75" circles at 45'.

Forgot to label that the 3rd Charger is a 10"
&
the 2nd Charger is an 8".
.75" circles at 30'
5 rds each circle.


1.75" circles at 45'.
5 rounds each circle.

 

[Squid556]

Did one of my favorite things comparing similar guns at the range today.
Today was a Ruger 8" Charger vs a 10" charger, both with red dots.
I took the "See All Sight" off the 10" polymer & put a Sig Romeo MSR red dot on it for a like comparison with the 8" polymer with a Holosun red dot.

Nearly identical results shown below between the 8" & the 10" Chargers in accuracy either on the .75" circles at 30' or 1.75" circles at 45'.

Forgot to label that the 3rd Charger is a 10"
&
the 2nd Charger is an 8".
.75" circles at 30'
5 rds each circle.
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1.75" circles at 45'.
5 rounds each circle.
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Which length charger did you prefer?

 

[doddg]

Which length charger did you prefer?

They both shot nearly identical & if any indiscernible difference, I would be the X factor.
So, it is a flip of the coin.
But, I am going to keep the
8" (2nd Charger), b/c of that difference.
My 1st Charger is the regular 10" & has w/wood grips that I love.
I am keeping it for my 10".
Eventually, I'll have to make a choice between the 10" and the 8".
conveniently, I have an interested buyer for the 3rd Charger.
It doesn't come with a bi-pod & he wants it with the
"See All Sights" (rear sight that functions as a combo front & rear sight), that came with it.

 

[marvin02]

Took these to the range last Tuesday:



S&W 422 and S&W22s.

Also got to shoot a friend's TX22 compact with a red dot. I have to add the TX22c to my list of guns I want.

Had a great time.