Lets point guns at each other!

[Thor]

Blue guns, orange tipped guns, maybe....the guns I brought and you're going to point yours back? Where's the door....

 

[calcot7]

Sure.....a likely excuse!

I do not think this is a good idea. I think I would have to pass on this drill.
I remember while taking a class here locally, the trainer was telling us about an event like this taking place at different training facility. When one of the guys in the class went home and showed his spouse what he learned in class he did not empty the gun of ammo and shot her.

 

[pudly]

I've sat out on exercises when I felt a class was getting over my head before, so I'd have no problem saying no again when a knucklehead trainer insisted on having someone point a real gun with me.

 

[Slawburger]

That is just waiting for Red 23 to come up on the roulette wheel.

 

[Expat]

They must really be elite operators.

 

[shibumiseeker]

What I learned right here on InGO was that if you question it, you clearly aren't elite enough to understand. I will never be that 1337.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I just came here to read Kirk's response...None yet...Will check back later...

So did I.

The thought of doing this has a definite pucker factor to it.

 

[mk2ja]

Not on your life. And certainly not on my own.

 

[lovemachine]

I'll say it. I don't care.

Anyone that agrees with pointing a gun, loaded or not, at another person in a training environment, has NO business with a gun in the first place. There is something mentally wrong with that person, and needs psychological help.

 

[printcraft]

I'll say it. I don't care.

Anyone that agrees with pointing a gun, loaded or not, at another person in a training environment, has NO business with a gun in the first place. There is something mentally wrong with that person, and needs psychological help.

What?! Are you some kind of wussy or something?! Real men can handle it.

 

[eldirector]

I'll jump on the bandwagon....

Airsoft? Sure
Simunition? Maybe
Drop the mag on my carry gun and dry fire at ya'? Nope.
Let some random stranger in a training class drop the mag on THEIR gun and fire at ME? All kinds of nope.

 

[poppy]

Just wondering if the instructor(s), upon retrospect, decided that this "drill" was not such a good idea after all or do they still think(and will probably defend) this drill has teachable merit? Again, just wondering.

 

[turnandshoot4]

The training industry strikes again. No mention of who did this, only that it happened.

They went on to say, "Be careful who you train with. Research, compare resumes, and choose wisely." Looks like they were duped, but won't tell anyone so no one else gets duped.

It said they shot 1200 rounds. I am sure people came away with the, "Wow, what a great class. I've never shot that much."

 

[Que]

I'll say it. I don't care.

Anyone that agrees with pointing a gun, loaded or not, at another person in a training environment, has NO business with a gun in the first place. There is something mentally wrong with that person, and needs psychological help.

Any recommendations? I have insurance.

 

[indiucky]

WWKD?


I do not know because he has not responded to this thread...It may have actually been too much safety fail for Kirk to even respond to it...

 

[turnandshoot4]

Found the company in question. Looks like the original facebook poster took it down, someone complained.

Advanced Combat Pistol Level i

 

[rhino]

The group shown in the photo are not the only people who do this as a training exercise (i.e. point and/or dryfire real guns at real people).

I've read or hear pretty much every justification for doing it and some believe there is a compelling need for it. I kept an open mind (at least initially), but in my assessment, no one has yet to provide even a single reason or benefit that is adequate justification for it. In most cases, the benefits are tenuous at best. I think the risks outweigh the alleged potential benefits. I know that for anyone who is my student as well as for me, there is no good reason for it, and many against it.

At risk of repeating myself: I won't do it. I won't be present if someone else is doing it. None of my students will do it.

 

[HoughMade]

I have to admit, we kinda-sorta did that in the Army...usually with MILES gear and blank adapters in place. there was, however, strict ammunition control, but nothing is perfect.

 

[pudly]

I have to admit, we kinda-sorta did that in the Army...usually with MILES gear and blank adapters in place. there was, however, strict ammunition control, but nothing is perfect.

And training accidents are an understood fact of life in the military.

 

[printcraft]

Found the company in question. Looks like the original facebook poster took it down, someone complained.

Advanced Combat Pistol Level i

If that's level 1.... do you actually get to shoot someone in level 2? That would be saaweeeeeeet.