Whether someone decides to OC or CC, it is an individual choice...case closed! As long as the individual is carrying in a manner that is most appropriate for them then its does not matter which he/she chooses. The only exception I would make to this opinion is if the person is OC'ing simply to attract attention to themselves. This would be IMHO the wrong motivation for being armed. The sole purpose for carrying a firearm is for protection not for intentionally attracting a reaction good or bad from others.
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The Open Carry Argument
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This was already covered in the conclusion of the essay. It's the reasons supporting the choices that generate further discussion.
If you read through the remainder of the thread, you'll see that it really does seem to matter to some folks. They get downright indignant that others choose differently than them or even for different reasons..
But wait... You just said the case was closed and it didn't matter which method they chose.
Perhaps defense is your sole purpose for carrying but why project that onto others? Protection is my primary purpose, but not my sole purpose.
For others, it's not even a primary purpose.
Why would you question or judge another's desire to exercise their right to keep and bear arms? They can do it for any or no reason at all. They can cover it or leave it exposed.
But everyone can have an opinion...
The reason I carry a Firearm is because it is far more effective at killing anything that needs killing than a knife...
Titanium_Frost
Grandmaster
Being an attention whore is a perfectly valid reason to OC. Not saying I am or even that it could be a reason I carry but just because it does not fall in line with your own morals or standards does not mean there are no other valid reason to perform a legal task.
"Just because I can" is OK by me.
"Just because I can" is OK by me.
The flip side to this is that most people don't think anything at all about the random people they encounter in public. What's more, there are a lot of easier, less expensive, more convenient ways of drawing attention to one's self than to OC. I would imagine that projection plays a role in determining such motivation in others.
Still, I'd have to agree, "Because I can" is as good a reason as any.
Titanium_Frost
Grandmaster
The flip side to this is that most people don't think anything at all about the random people they encounter in public. What's more, there are a lot of easier, less expensive, more convenient ways of drawing attention to one's self than to OC. I would imagine that projection plays a role in determining such motivation in others.
Still, I'd have to agree, "Because I can" is as good a reason as any.
This reminds me of highschool. We had all the Goth and Emo kids who are dying (literally) for attention but nobody really cares anymore.
I wore my cowboy boots and bootcut Wranglers to school and would get 10x the attention they did.
Did I do it for attention or did I just like my boots? Does it matter?
Sometimes I CC, sometimes OC, as the situation dictates. I've been CC for over 20 years. But remember back in March when the weather all of a sudden got real hot and toasty? I was searching through my closet and dresser for something to wear that's not-too-hot and would conceal my holster. Then the light bulb came on. Why should I sweat my tookus off if OC is allowed under IN law? So far I have been OC for about 3 months, and I have yet to receive the first comment, either positive or negative from anyone. I have been observed by several police officers, we made eye contact, nothing said. One off-duty police officer working security in a jewelery store (off duty police, not a security guard) had a real close look at my holstered Kimber from 4 to 5 feet away. He looked at my 45 and all he said to me was "good morning". My OC experience is "so far so good".
Bunnykid68
Grandmaster
Titanium_Frost
Grandmaster
Just picturing that
My Boots are under my desk right now. I wore them out and they need new insoles.FireBirdDS
Expert
I sort of open carry, in that I always carry outside the waistband with just my shirt or jacket hanging over it. Granted its still concealed, but not so deeply as to slow or inhibit my access to it.
Titanium_Frost
Grandmaster
It is MY opinion and not necessarily the opinion of any other OCer or this forum but to me Open Carry is when the gun is purposfully out in the open, not just concealed sloppily or in an OWB holster.
I'm not knocking your carry choice, I'm glad you are concerned with draw speed and obstacles to deploying your weapon.
Maybe this has been said before.. Couldn't someone technically sling a rifle over their shoulder and go about their daily business? I mean.. that is OC.
Yes. Nothing technical about it, you may legally do so in Indiana.
eldirector
Grandmaster
I open carry at all times. If I'm going to the corner gas station - I carry. If I'm going to take a **** on the road - I carry. If I'm stopping by the mart for a glass of milk - I carry. And yes, I carry in nice restaurants! Open on my hip. Usually with 2 fully stacked magazines on the opposite side. I've had people ask me if I'm a cop, security, ect, ect. Which is think is just fine. I carry, big and bold. Either a Glock-22 or American Classic 1911 .45ACP. Pretty much everything in the essay above is exactly what I feel. I feel that the deterrent of open carry is more powerful than the firearm itself. And don't get me wrong, I don't at all open carry to feel more like a badass. But on that same hand, if trouble does come calling, I'm going to answer with a BIG bang. And lots of them!
I very much like for the bad guy about to pull the door open to know that his life is now as much at steak as mine is. And I feel that open carry puts the police more at ease. I've gotten thumbs up's, and nods of the head from police officers as they pass me or stand in line with me for carrying, and carrying openly. I feel like it makes the situation a common sense issue for them. If I'm concealed, and they happen to spot it when I reach for something, or my shirt rides up, I feel like it would start setting off bells for them... primarily - "Why is he hiding his gun if he's got a licence? People only hide things when they don't want people to see them. Something's wrong here!".
So, basically, I open carry for both the crooks and the cops.
I very much like for the bad guy about to pull the door open to know that his life is now as much at steak as mine is. And I feel that open carry puts the police more at ease. I've gotten thumbs up's, and nods of the head from police officers as they pass me or stand in line with me for carrying, and carrying openly. I feel like it makes the situation a common sense issue for them. If I'm concealed, and they happen to spot it when I reach for something, or my shirt rides up, I feel like it would start setting off bells for them... primarily - "Why is he hiding his gun if he's got a licence? People only hide things when they don't want people to see them. Something's wrong here!".
So, basically, I open carry for both the crooks and the cops.
Maybe this has been said before.. Couldn't someone technically sling a rifle over their shoulder and go about their daily business? I mean.. that is OC.
You CAN... but when you do that, you better enjoy talking to the police... A LOT.
I've open carried my Draco before. Just because my out of state friend didn't at all believe that I could here. I never got the police called on me, but then again, I went to walmart, and people there are more concerned with funny cat videos, and the rising price of fruits. But, carrying a rifle, SBR, or AR/AK pistol is going to get A LOT more attention. And probably get the police called on you. Even though it's 100% legal, and there would be no trouble in it for you. It's just an inconvenience factor for me. But I have done it before, and probably will do it again some time in the future.
iChokePeople
Master
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What you did there... I see it.
blamecharles
Master
Since we seem to have a current set of arguments on the subject I wanted to remind everyone that this thread is here.
I've also come to the conclusion that I no longer have a carry method. I just freaking carry. So maybe I am a JFCer.
I've also come to the conclusion that I no longer have a carry method. I just freaking carry. So maybe I am a JFCer.
On your back, duct taped to your forehead, and in your hand.
