Noblesville Cabela's used gun salesman is full os S###!

[crispy]

Have an Idea of the handgun you wish to purchase
Go to your LGS or Gander or Cabelas and coon finger these handguns.
Go online look at several different online stores. Buds,KYgunCo
Purchase from the place of your choice ONLINE!!

AND THIS IS KEY!!!! BEFORE YOU DO THE TRANFER, INSPECT THIS WEAPON DON'T PROCEED WITH TRANSFER IF "ANYTHG IS NOT TO YOUR LIKING"

HUGE SAVINGS!!!!

The first part is absolute garbage but the second half is even worse advice.

If you don't accept the transfer the store is going to sit on it until someone pays shipping back. Since you've already paid Buds for it, it ain't going to be them.

Screw over the LGS. Then screw over the place doing the transfer.

There are always some like you.

 

[Cameramonkey]

The first part is absolute garbage but the second half is even worse advice.

If you don't accept the transfer the store is going to sit on it until someone pays shipping back. Since you've already paid Buds for it, it ain't going to be them.

Screw over the LGS. Then screw over the place doing the transfer.

There are always some like you.

Curious. What is your suggestion on the second solution? Once he accepts the item with problems, its his baby. A broken/wrong/not as advertised baby. Would you accept the special order car from the dealer that was significantly wrong, or would you force the factory to make it right and not take delivery, sticking the dealer with the first car?

Or lets flip it. Would you as the salesman force your customer to complete the purchase of the gun with the wonky buttstock because thats the one you picked out of back stock? If I read you correctly, "thems the breaks" in regards to problems with a yet to be purchased firearm.

 

[JettaKnight]

Curious. What is your suggestion on the second solution? Once he accepts the item with problems, its his baby. A broken/wrong/not as advertised baby. Would you accept the special order car from the dealer that was significantly wrong, or would you force the factory to make it right and not take delivery, sticking the dealer with the first car?

Or lets flip it. Would you as the salesman force your customer to complete the purchase of the gun with the wonky buttstock because thats the one you picked out of back stock? If I read you correctly, "thems the breaks" in regards to problems with a yet to be purchased firearm.

In the car scenario, BOTH are Brand X dealers.

My kitchen table dealer isn't affiliated with Century Arms, so what can he do about the the POS gun they shipped me? His job is to handle the onerous AFT requirements and paperwork, not be my problem solver. That transfer agent isn't the salesman, so your paragraph doesn't hold water; the sale was already completed.


Crispy's right, the gun has been paid for, and shipped to the transfer agent. If you don't accept it, what's the transfer agent to do, maybe keep it as a gift?


If you want full service, then go to a LGS, else handle it yourself. There's always some risk in buying sight unseen.

 

[JettaKnight]

After looking it up, I now know that Bud's will not take returns AFTER the transfer. They will then tell you to go to the mfgr.

So, if you do find a problem then, I guess to better NOT transfer, work with the transfer agent to send it back AND give him a big tip.



Also, last time I did a kitchen table transfer, my dealer said he doesn't accept firearms from Bud's.

 

[JBP239]

Cabelas is a good place to look at a lot of different firearms at one time to compare size, weight, grip etc. But It's pretty rare to find a good deal there in my experience.

I don't feel comfortable ordering a firearm online and having it transfered, I like to see what I'm buying in person before I buy. I'm probably more picky than most but I like to get what I'm paying for. I've seen several new firearms in stores that look used from being handled so much.

I would much rather give the business to a local gun store. If you shop around there are several who have very reasonable prices and can pretty much order anything you want if they don't have it already.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Cabelas is a good place to look at a lot of different firearms at one time to compare size, weight, grip etc. But It's pretty rare to find a good deal there in my experience.

I don't feel comfortable ordering a firearm online and having it transfered, I like to see what I'm buying in person before I buy. I'm probably more picky than most but I like to get what I'm paying for. I've seen several new firearms in stores that look used from being handled so much.

I would much rather give the business to a local gun store. If you shop around there are several who have very reasonable prices and can pretty much order anything you want if they don't have it already.

Im with you.

Then again, I shop at LGS' with good enough pricing that I might save $10-20 on the deal. If that after it is all said and done.

 

[55fairlane]

My wife was in there yesterday, do you think anyone even asked if she wanted help?nope,no one, just two sales standing around shooting the breeze.....same thing the first time we went there......won't spend a dime there

Aaron

 

[mcapo]

It is not unusual to purchase a new item (gun, watch, hammer, etc.) from a retailer and have any post sale complaints handled by the manufacture - not the retailer. When you've made an online purchase; you've accepted the item as represented. New means not used; doesn't mean you didn't get the one in the smashed box.

Understand the circumstances, rights and responsibilities before making an online purchase.

Unless it is something that my LGS won't likely have or can't get; I'd just as soon pay a couple extra percentage points and eliminate all the online issues. Plus, over the years he has come to value my business and I value his service.

Can't say me and Amazon.com have a personal-business relationship.

I miss the days of Norms Gun Shop on US 30....

 

[churchmouse]

And yet more affirmation that my steadfast policy of not buying a gun unseen/fondled is the right way to go.
I would as soon by a lightly used piece that I can see/touch than put one in the mail.
I have had a few issues with guns that would have been warranty but I will fix them myself as to putting it in the mail.

 

[Bosshoss]

Curious. What is your suggestion on the second solution? Once he accepts the item with problems, its his baby.

Yep he ordered it and it is his problem. Not the FFL's who had nothing to do with it other than doing some paperwork and making a phone call.

 

[Bosshoss]

The first part is absolute garbage but the second half is even worse advice.

If you don't accept the transfer the store is going to sit on it until someone pays shipping back. Since you've already paid Buds for it, it ain't going to be them.

Screw over the LGS. Then screw over the place doing the transfer.

There are always some like you.

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This 100%

I don't have a problem with someone ordering online but when they go to the LGS and checkout his inventory that he has $$$$$ invested in and tie up an employee that he is paying so they can decide what they want and go home and order online. That is a crappy move IMO.
But if you think that is ok don't forget to run home and order and then get online and complain about how high the LGS prices are.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Yep he ordered it and it is his problem. Not the FFL's who had nothing to do with it other than doing some paperwork and making a phone call.

Dont want to get stuck with a "not as advertised" piece, do what some FFLs do and say no. No mail order transfers.

^^^^^^
This 100%

I don't have a problem with someone ordering online but when they go to the LGS and checkout his inventory that he has $$$$$ invested in and tie up an employee that he is paying so they can decide what they want and go home and order online. That is a crappy move IMO.
But if you think that is ok don't forget to run home and order and then get online and complain about how high the LGS prices are.

I'm all for places like Indiana Gun Club that charge a premium transfer if it is something they sell. Its like $25 if they dont stock it, $50 if they do. Good for them.

Dont be a jerk and Buy a Glock from Buds and transfer it @ Bradis. (Or a Kimber at Buds and transfer at IGC.

Buy local unless its something you cant, THEN you go find it at Buds, et al. But preferrably AFTER the LGS says they wont do a special order for you. If you shop the right LGS, you can get it for roughly the same price as online from what Ive seen.

 

[two70]

Also, last time I did a kitchen table transfer, my dealer said he doesn't accept firearms from Bud's.

I've encountered several dealers like that and they no longer get any of my business. Fortunately Beech Grove Firearms is near my route home and happy to do transfers, which is why I always shop there first when I'm looking for something they are likely to have in stock.

 

[churchmouse]

Dont want to get stuck with a "not as advertised" piece, do what some FFLs do and say no. No mail order transfers.


I'm all for places like Indiana Gun Club that charge a premium transfer if it is something they sell. Its like $25 if they dont stock it, $50 if they do. Good for them.

Dont be a jerk and Buy a Glock from Buds and transfer it @ Bradis. (Or a Kimber at Buds and transfer at IGC.

Buy local unless its something you cant, THEN you go find it at Buds, et al. But preferrably AFTER the LGS says they wont do a special order for you. If you shop the right LGS, you can get it for roughly the same price as online from what Ive seen.

If you have a good relationship with a LGS they will most likely give you the good guy price and not the walk in tire kicker price. Yes, there is a difference.
If you stop in and "Look" multiple times after a while yes, that will get old with the counter help. It would with me.

 

[Thegeek]

I buy local whenever I can, and I expect to pay a little more because of it. But, I have also purchased from Bud's and because the local guy couldn't even come close. I'm up front about it. I'll tell them I'd like to buy it from them, but the difference is just too much. It's on them to make a sale at a lower margin, or no sale at all. It's just business.

Now to Cabela's, I was there and couldn't even look at the gun counter because it was roped off and you had to wait in line. I don't even bother with that unless I have the intent to buy. If I'm just looking, I'm not waiting. On used guns, it fun to push. Ask them to certify the round count and that all internal parts have not been altered from factory. They won't. Then you push hard on price.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

The first part is absolute garbage but the second half is even worse advice.

If you don't accept the transfer the store is going to sit on it until someone pays shipping back. Since you've already paid Buds for it, it ain't going to be them.

Screw over the LGS. Then screw over the place doing the transfer.

There are always some like you.

Read Bud's return policy.

 

[Thegeek]

Dont want to get stuck with a "not as advertised" piece, do what some FFLs do and say no. No mail order transfers.

Bud's, SilencerShop, etc. have "preferred" shops. Part of that business is getting people into the local store for the ammo/accessories to go with that new gun. They also know the policies that a buyer can refuse a gun if it's incorrect or damaged. The LGS just has to store it. The buyer is the one who's pained with arranging a refund or replacement. If they don't want the benefit/risk, then don't do the business.

I'm all for places like Indiana Gun Club that charge a premium transfer if it is something they sell. Its like $25 if they dont stock it, $50 if they do. Good for them.

Dont be a jerk and Buy a Glock from Buds and transfer it @ Bradis. (Or a Kimber at Buds and transfer at IGC.

Buy local unless its something you cant, THEN you go find it at Buds, et al. But preferrably AFTER the LGS says they wont do a special order for you. If you shop the right LGS, you can get it for roughly the same price as online from what Ive seen.

They IGC just priced themselves out of the foot traffic. I agree, but disagree with your assessment. If Bradis has a G19 for $525 and won't budge on the price, but I can get it for $465 at Bud's, I'll make it a point to transfer it at Bradis. They'll either get the message that they need to be flexible, or just not sell me any guns. In this scenario, if they would have dropped the price to $500 flat, I would have bought it (for the record, I have purchased 4 guns at Bradis). I understand the business and unless the local guy trims their margins, they'll go under. Remember, pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. You might want to make $50 from me, but I'll give you the choice of making $30 or nothing. That's their choice and I don't feel bad about it.

 

[sdtech58]

All of my new firearm purchases have been from LGS. I find that shopping around and getting the best deal is one of my favorite parts of the entire purchasing process, all while supporting our local shop owners. I would say that in general, the service you get at a "big box store" is going to be worse than what you should expect to get at a smaller LGS. Don't know why this is difficult for people to understand. The volume of people coming in and out is a lot greater, and probably mostly "kicking the tires". And the employees at a LGS are probably more vested or have more of a friendly relationship with the owner than a strictly professional relationship like you will get at a Cabelas or Gander. A friend of mine worked at Gander for a while and is very knowledgeable about guns and an active competitive shooter. He got treated the same as the idiots working with him that just wanted a job.

 

[JettaKnight]

Read Bud's return policy.

Like what I posted here:

After looking it up, I now know that Bud's will not take returns AFTER the transfer. They will then tell you to go to the mfgr.

So, if you do find a problem then, I guess to better NOT transfer, work with the transfer agent to send it back AND give him a big tip.

 

[Steel and wood]

I love my local gun store Robys in Kokomo don't like big box stores good to look at but want the local guy to get my money they work hard for it.