So when do you shoot someone?

[bingley]

I figured, since I don't believe people should be required to take a class, and since I OC, I should get a Glock, so that I can be worse.

You want to know what's even worse than no required classes, OC, and Glocks?

 

[Lectric102002]

You want to know what's even worse than no required classes, OC, and Glocks?

Rogue meteors ? Obamacare ?

 

[actaeon277]

You want to know what's even worse than no required classes, OC, and Glocks?

Well, you have us in suspense....

 

[actaeon277]

You want to know what's even worse than no required classes, OC, and Glocks?

Rogue meteors ? Obamacare ?

Well, you have us in suspense....

Star Trek 5?

 

[bingley]

No, no, rogue meteors, Obamacare, and even Star Trek 5 and the Star Wars "sequels" are all better than required classes, OC, and Glocks.

What worse than a Glock? A Glock with a safety, of course. Why put a safety on a non-lethal weapon? Oh, you didn't know, did you? Glocks are non-lethal weapons, because they are so ugly that as soon as you draw your gun the bad guy would be doubled over puking his guts out from an insurmountable sense of disgust. They're kind of like those pink pepper sprays for lady joggers in spandex.

 

[Snapdragon]

No harm, no foul.

I'm sure Snapdragon is wondering why these Neanderthals jacked her thread, so, with that, I'm out.

It was time to put this thread out of its misery anyway. Pew Pew Pew!

 

[yepthatsme]

Just to let you know, Ruger has some interesting videos on youtube and on the Ruger website, that deal with tactics, beginner carry, awareness, and different weapons. They don't replace real training, but they do give good information.

 

[3steps]

I found this yesterday.

Chainsaws….


Everyone knows you should not use something like a chainsaw if you do not know how to use it properly. Or if you think you might hurt yourself or someone else. It is the same with firearms. If you do not feel comfortable with one, either don’t have one or learn to use one properly.
Why Good People Should Be Armed - YouTube

 

[churchmouse]

the "force on force" training being referred to is not hand to hand type fighting. It's firearm training using simunition rounds, putting you into specific scenarios, where you actually use a firearm to shoot someone. See the website for midset labs, which is here in Indiana.

I have been looking at this. ^^^^ It is very interesting. My definition of the term may differ from others.
We have always considered Force on Force to be responding in kind to a threat...open hand, respond in kind, weapons, same deal. Train to disarm knife/gun if to close to respond with my sidearm. Use any and everything within reach to defend. Respond quickly and with enough "Force" to end the threat immediately. I spent a few hrs. yesterday learning some new techniques and will share them with my group as soon as I get them mastered.

 

[Snapdragon]

I found this yesterday.

Chainsaws….


Everyone knows you should not use something like a chainsaw if you do not know how to use it properly. Or if you think you might hurt yourself or someone else. It is the same with firearms. If you do not feel comfortable with one, either don’t have one or learn to use one properly.
Why Good People Should Be Armed - YouTube

Good analogy, 3steps.

 

[churchmouse]

Good analogy, 3steps.

Hey, you are supposed to be at the range.....

 

[Snapdragon]

Leaving in an hour. Had to shower and load the dishwasher and do a couple of loads of laundry first.

 

[calum]

You shoot when you are reasonably afraid of imminent serious bodily harm or death (your own or another persons).

The catch in this is, of course, what is "reasonable".

If you're in your own home and the person you're shooting at is an intruder, such fear is per se reasonable.

Outside your home but on your property, I think there's still a strong presumption that you are reasonable in fear of an intruder.

Out in public? You'd better be sure the threat is clear and imminent. If you go looking to be a hero and insert yourself into the situation or cause the escalation, then you'd better not bring your gun out. If you start the fight that ultimately leads to you shooting someone, you'll have a hard time claiming self-defense.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Leaving in an hour. Had to shower and load the dishwasher and do a couple of loads of laundry first.

So you are drinking this morning already?

Couldnt help myself

 

[rlspach]

There is a solution to this "training required to carry" conundrum. Training is essential. At the same time we want to minimize infringements upon our essential liberties.

We require education for our kids. Make firearms training "common core" to the Indiana required curriculum. Then, everyone (raised in Indiana) is trained however carry isn't explicitly tied to whether or not you received training. Its sort of like mandatory civics education.

 

[whippo]

There is a solution to this "training required to carry" conundrum. Training is essential. At the same time we want to minimize infringements upon our essential liberties.

We require education for our kids. Make firearms training "common core" to the Indiana required curriculum. Then, everyone (raised in Indiana) is trained however carry isn't explicitly tied to whether or not you received training. Its sort of like mandatory civics education.

I couldnt disagree more more I don't want everyone to know how to properly use a weapon the kill rate/injured would go up in shootings

 

[Lectric102002]

I couldnt disagree more more I don't want everyone to know how to properly use a weapon the kill rate/injured would go up in shootings

Let me guess ...... you forgot the purple ?

 

[daddyusmaximus]

Sorry if a dupe, didn't read all 26 pages... A good read is "In The Gravest Extreme" by Massad Ayoob.

 

[MickeyBlueEyes]

When you live in Indiana, IC 35-41-3 has all the appropriate times you can shoot someone...and whenever you are in fear for your life...like if a former inamte is on your porch and you and he have a paperwork trail a mile long with death threats to your family. I would still call the cops first, to let them know to send the coroner...

 

[tobi]

None, because the government does not have money, they would have to take it from someone else first

Maybe they could take it from the "free cell phone program"???