Springfield Armory Echelon 9mm

[Route 45]

As far as round count....some of us don't need as many as some others do. YMMV.

I'd love to hear how you came to this conclusion. Do you have personal tales of body counts and one-shot-stops, or are you just pulling this out of your holster?

 

[Skip]

Are you contemplating the purchase of an Echelon?

I am. I am going to wait until a few more grip frames/slide & barrel combinations come out though. I like the P320 line of modifications through “caliber change kits”.

 

[Route 45]

Having shot the Echelon now, I'm firmly in the "meh" camp on them. Lots of trigger sting/slap. The recoil impulse is not nearly as smooth as my P320s and M&Ps. Actually feels kinda like shooting a Glock, but despite the subjectively better ergonomics on the Echelon, I'd rather have a Glock if I had to choose between the two. Not sure what it is, it's hard to put into words. The Echelon just seems "off" to me somehow.

 

[2tonic]

I'd love to hear how you came to this conclusion. Do you have personal tales of body counts and one-shot-stops, or are you just pulling this out of your holster?

Ummm.....because some people can hit what they're aiming at, under pressure, and some......can't.
Not sayin' nuffin'. Just relating facts.

Course, the shootee does have some say in the matter.

 

[Route 45]

Ummm.....because some people can hit what they're aiming at, under pressure, and some......can't.
Not sayin' nuffin'. Just relating facts.

Course, the shootee does have some say in the matter.

I'm wondering if you think you know more than this guy. He has seen the elephant.

Why one cop carries 145 rounds of ammo on the job

Before the call that changed Sergeant Timothy Gramins’ life forever, he typically carried 47 rounds of handgun ammunition on his person while on duty

www.police1.com

 

[2tonic]

I'm wondering if you think you know more than this guy. He has seen the elephant.

Why one cop carries 145 rounds of ammo on the job

Before the call that changed Sergeant Timothy Gramins’ life forever, he typically carried 47 rounds of handgun ammunition on his person while on duty

www.police1.com

No, I do not profess to know more than anyone, I only know what works for me.
I'm comfortable with 25 rnds.
I, however, am not an LEO, so I do not face the same scenarios or responsibilities as a peace officer.
YMMV.

For what it's worth, I have seen a couple elephants myself, and not the pink kind.

Again, I'm not criticizing your choices, merely offering my observations. They are worth what you paid for them.

 

[gregkl]

Lots of trigger sting

Interesting. I had a pistol once that would sting so bad that after a mag or two I was done. Tried two other aftermarket triggers. Same result. I and the guys at HBI concluded it most likely was the shape of the trigger guard. I really wanted to like that pistol but I stayed with the M&P.

This is why its nice to try before you buy.

 

[drillsgt]

I've got mine ready to go once I get back from this Mil duty, looking forward to shooting it. Upthread it was mentioned about the optic/sight plate coming off, not sure how that was possible if they were all torqued as tight as mine was!

 

[Skip]

Gettin the #echelon toasty with @Maxlifextactical | Over 2500 rounds through it with no problem

youtube.com

 

[swa5530]

H R Funk has a YouTube channel featuring this gun.

 

[DadSmith]

SPG EC9459B-U ECHELON 9MM 4.5 UNOTCH 17/20R

dackoutdoors.com

$549 no taxes
Also wait for a free shipping day which happens once or twice a month.

They take 30 days to ship so if you want it right away this isn't for you.

However it's a pretty good deal if you decide to get it.

 

[Peacekeeper3073]

SPG EC9459B-U ECHELON 9MM 4.5 UNOTCH 17/20R

dackoutdoors.com

$549 no taxes
Also wait for a free shipping day which happens once or twice a month.

They take 30 days to ship so if you want it right away this isn't for you.

However it's a pretty good deal if you decide to get it.

30 days to ship? Sounds to me like they don't keep their stock at their store location and ship to them from distributor and then they ship to your FFL.

 

[Expat]

Interesting. I had a pistol once that would sting so bad that after a mag or two I was done. Tried two other aftermarket triggers. Same result. I and the guys at HBI concluded it most likely was the shape of the trigger guard. I really wanted to like that pistol but I stayed with the M&P.

This is why its nice to try before you buy.

Weird how that happens. I have had a couple pistols that hurt my trigger finger. One of them, P30, I decided it was the share curve of the trigger itself. some others that felt it to, thought it was the channel on the trigger guard.

 

[DadSmith]

30 days to ship? Sounds to me like they don't keep their stock at their store location and ship to them from distributor and then they ship to your FFL.

That's what they do.

 

[Opie]

Nephew bought one of these yesterday. Said he put 200rds through it today. Only problem was a Winchester white box primer failed to go off.
I told him sounds like white box to me. I also told him to contact Winchester because they need to know about it. He did just that tonight.
I'm interested to know how Winchester will handle that.


Picture he sent asking if the primer was hit hard enough.
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We have about 20 of those Winchester's with good primer hits and no ignition sitting in a cup. There's been some issues on the last batch we bought.

 

[drillsgt]

Finally got back from military duty and took the Echelon out yesterday. Mine shoots great, trigger is nice, not as nice as a PDP but better than most! It sighted in quickly with my Holosun 507 and put about 150rds of fmj and hp through it. Didn't notice any 'trigger slap' as others have said. It pretty much makes my G47 obsolete!

 

[DadSmith]

We have about 20 of those Winchester's with good primer hits and no ignition sitting in a cup. There's been some issues on the last batch we bought.

My nephew sent Winchester an email about it. They never replied to him.
I guess having that big government contract they don't care about the avg citizen.
Makes me not want to buy anything Winchester.

 

[Skip]

Finally got back from military duty and took the Echelon out yesterday. Mine shoots great, trigger is nice, not as nice as a PDP but better than most! It sighted in quickly with my Holosun 507 and put about 150rds of fmj and hp through it. Didn't notice any 'trigger slap' as others have said. It pretty much makes my G47 obsolete!

Does it point more naturally for you than a Glock?

 

[drillsgt]

Does it point more naturally for you than a Glock?

Definitely points more naturally.

 

[Skip]

Definitely points more naturally.

Thank you, sir. I like the Glock type action but not their ergonomics. I’ve changed lowers on most of mine to have them point more naturally. I sure hope they get on the ball and make Echelon conversion kits soon. I’d be very interested in them.