Israel About to Be Taught a Lesson

[redneckmedic]

Smoking375..... 90% of your posts are spent defending the utterly foolish 10% OP you started with. Time for the ignore button. Have a good life, God Bless You.

 

[dross]

Then lemme axe ya', if it was fairly captured during a war, why is it now improper for people to engage in war to get it back?

It's not, necessarily. This was captured by a war of aggression against Israel, who gave it back, according to an agreement. That agreement was then immediately violated.

We can argue the "international community's" legitimacy, but that community has been involved in this issue from the beginning. Israel has been the constant victim of aggression, and then criticized by that same community. Their attempts at peace agreements have been rejected, or accepted and then violated with impunity.

I think Israel has shown entirely too much restraint and too much respect for international opinion.

 

[smoking357]

Smoking375..... 90% of your posts are spent defending the utterly foolish 10% OP you started with. Time for the ignore button. Have a good life, God Bless You.

Here's some netiquette of which people need a reminder. When you killfile someone, just do it. It's cowardice to announce the killfile knowing that you'll be spared seeing the response.

Brave Sir Robin ran away.
Bravely ran away, away!
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!

 

[PatriotPride]

Israel has no right to a blockade of Palestinian waters or of international waters.

Israel cannot be more wrong in this incident. We are hurting this country by having a few here who defend them, since the whole world roundly condemns Israel.

I see the support for Israel coming primarily from Jews and neocons. Both are minority components of the country, and neoconservatism has been losing ground since 2006. This may be the death of it, thankfully.

Ignorance I find extremely hard to tolerate, and WILLFUL ignorance is no different. That being said, again I ask you: Do you advocate that Israel just sit on their arses and allow Moslems to attack their country on a DAILY basis? Israel has EVERY right to blockade, and if need be, ENFORCE it's blockade against those whose sole objective is the destruction of their country and peoples. "Since the whole world roundly condemns Israel" Again, willfull ignorance! How about worldwide condemnation of nations who raise their children from the cradle to HATE Israel and to do their very best to destroy it? CRI-MIN-Y! Give me a break.

 

[PatriotPride]

It's not, necessarily. This was captured by a war of aggression against Israel, who gave it back, according to an agreement. That agreement was then immediately violated.

We can argue the "international community's" legitimacy, but that community has been involved in this issue from the beginning. Israel has been the constant victim of aggression, and then criticized by that same community. Their attempts at peace agreements have been rejected, or accepted and then violated with impunity.

I think Israel has shown entirely too much restraint and too much respect for international opinion.

You sir, have been rep'd!

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

Israel cannot be more wrong in this incident. We are hurting this country by having a few here who defend them, since the whole world roundly condemns Israel..

IDK if this is a new concept to you or not but most of us who were born and raised in AMERICA don't really give a flying #$@! what the world thinks about us or our allies .

Being that we , along with the Brits and a few others pretty much saved the world's behind not once but twice I think we've earned that right .

Why is this so hard to understand ?

HAMAS is indiscriminately targeting / killing civilians , period .

If they had some discipline and restricted their killing to Israeli military targets I might be more sympathetic to their cause .

 

[smoking357]

It's not, necessarily. This was captured by a war of aggression against Israel.

Oh, now, that's a shipload of chutzpah, if ever there was. Rich, that.

Israel has been the constant victim of aggression

Id. Is your tongue in your cheek with this?

I think Israel has shown entirely too much restraint and too much respect for international opinion.

They only exist, at all, because of international opinion. If the world knew what they'd have become, they would never have been given the land grant.

 

[dross]

Oh, now, that's a shipload of chutzpah, if ever there was. Rich, that.



Id. Is your tongue in your cheek with this?



They only exist, at all, because of international opinion. If the world knew what they'd have become, they would never have been given the land grant.

This is an example of my problem with you. Instead of answering my points, you make statements as if my points were so far out there that you don't need to address them, and then you raise other points, which if I were to counter, I suspect you would do the same.

Answer my points if you want to argue this, don't give me the driveby bumper sticker and then move on to inciting someone else.

 

[public servant]

OThey only exist, at all, because of international opinion. If the world knew what they'd have become, they would never have been given the land grant.

They exist because God wanted them to exist.

For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. Ezekiel 36:24

You shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers, and you shall be my people, and I will be your God. Ezekiel 36:28

For I will restore them to the land I gave their fathers. Jeremiah 16:15

 

[jbombelli]

There are only two sides here, with no middle ground. You either think Hamas, Hezbollah and the others are right in ther stated and sworn goals to completely erase Israel from the map and kill all jews, in which case you should GTFO of my country and go join your terrorist brothers, or you believe Israel is right to defend themselves against a bunch of lying, murderous terrorists who have violated or ignored every attempt at peace extended to them, because they've sworn to their god to not quit until Israel is completely destroyed.

Which is it?

 

[LEaSH]

What a mess.

Only thing that might be more of a mess would be if US forces raided and killed people on a peace mission armed with steal poles and molotov cocktails.

I'd rather the Israelis not kill people armed with steal poles and molotov cocktails, but better them than us.

Justifiable blockade or not, it's just bad press to shoot people delivering non-weapons. Unless I missed somewhere that the dead folks had small arms or something.

 

[dross]

What a mess.

Only thing that might be more of a mess would be if US forces raided and killed people on a peace mission armed with steal poles and molotov cocktails.

I'd rather the Israelis not kill people armed with steal poles and molotov cocktails, but better them than us.

Justifiable blockade or not, it's just bad press to shoot people delivering non-weapons. Unless I missed somewhere that the dead folks had small arms or something.

If some ships claiming to be carrying humanitarian supplies to Gaza contain weapons, which they do, it is reasonable for a blockading country to check any ships heading to Gaza for weapons. If upon stopping and inspecting those ships they are met with violence, it's reasonable to be answered with violence.

Whether or not that particular ship actually carried weapons is not relevant.

 

[PatriotPride]

There are only two sides here, with no middle ground. You either think Hamas, Hezbollah and the others are right in ther stated and sworn goals to completely erase Israel from the map and kill all jews, in which case you should GTFO of my country and go join your terrorist brothers, or you believe Israel is right to defend themselves against a bunch of lying, murderous terrorists who have violated or ignored every attempt at peace extended to them, because they've sworn to their god to not quit until Israel is completely destroyed.

Which is it?

Eloquently written. That is really what it comes down to.

 

[9lock]

GTFO of my country and go join your terrorist brothers

That is uncalled for.

 

[smoking357]

They exist because God wanted them to exist.

Is this a joke? Is this sort of thinking guiding our political decisions?

 

[HICKMAN]

Looks like Zohan will be going to work again soon...

 

[smoking357]

This is an example of my problem with you. Instead of answering my points, you make statements as if my points were so far out there that you don't need to address them, and then you raise other points, which if I were to counter, I suspect you would do the same.

Answer my points if you want to argue this, don't give me the driveby bumper sticker and then move on to inciting someone else.

Oh, come on. Don't act so put out. You load up your post with a bucket of irony and arrogance and act shocked when I note the PKB content?

When one thinks of Israel and aggression, one does not credibly think of Israel as a victim.

At least not in other countries.

 

[boozoo]

Israel uses the UN when it suits them and ignores it when it doesn't.

So does the rest of the world.
The UN is every bit as much of a failure as the League of Nations was.


So do you have a checklist of Palestinian/Muslim bullet points (ha ha) you're reading from or what?

 

[buffalo-springfield40]

Great article on the massacre:

Israel attacks aid ship, kills at least 10 civilians - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com

Even better news: the Turkish Navy is escorting the next Freedom Flotilla to protect it from the Israeli pirates. The Israelis have no right to board another ship in international waters, and if the Israelis enter Gaza waters, Hamas can permit the Turkish Navy to repel and sink all Israeli intruding vessels.

I can't stop laughing over Savage Eagle's comment that condemnation of Israel's crimes is a minority view. I would suggest that more gun owners closely follow international news and opinion.

Your right..a lesson is about to be taught...but you my friend may not like the subject....

 

[public servant]

Is this a joke?

Nope...not at all.

Is this sort of thinking guiding our political decisions?

Unfortunately...not so much anymore.